LiamD Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Anyone else think they look utter toss?Maybe I'm being a tad hypocritical as my car looks a piece of poop, but some people have clearly taken a half decent car and completely messed it up purely for attention seeking purposes - I can't think of any other reason.What then pestered me was these abominations parking on the show and shine field. Takes the piss when people like Casper, Ryan, Adrian, etc spend ridiculous amounts of time making sure there cars look amazing only to be grouped in with these things. To me, show and shine is like the pinnacle of cleanliness and well looked after cars, despite sometimes having a little mickey take I have the upmost respect for these people too as it takes a hell of a lot of motivation and effort. It's not a place for a POS dented, rusty, but stickered up VW with a gash roof rack.I'm possibly being mega grumpy from the drive home, but discuss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Haha. Is this anything to do with the Mk3 golf with the wooden pallet on the roof and just random sh*t thrown on there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Possibly, maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picola Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 I think the vast majority of them look poop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanSN117 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Rat makes baby jesus cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusgrant Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 I agree. And that MK3 your on about looked crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiea7x Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 forced rat cars only wokr if they have been well thought out and done properly and done with humour/or appropriate vintage style in mindbut these ones with a load of warning tape and random **** on roofracks are ****e..SHÃTEGOOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 The Mk1 is a photoshop though, and still looks toss.Genuine patina is great and perfectly acceptable on your 1932 Ford Model A, or pre-70's Beetle.On a watercooled VW, you just look like a tosser. A Mk3 Golf may get away with it mind, since I think rust was a factory option on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartagram Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Depends how its done. If its done well and though out well like the Two Faced Rocco then I'm into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStryder360 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) Personally, I think they look awesome.The Beemer makes me want to fap in my pants, right now. Edited June 7, 2010 by DarkStryder360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Was having a discussion with a mate about this just the other day, altho I must say I don't understand it or appreciate it, I have spoken to a few lads who have done it to their cars and it seems to take more effort to pull off a good rat car, than to prep one and stick in into a bodyshop to get it looking factory. So I dunno, swings and roundabouts I guess, its like these 2 month old babies having their 'works of art' sold for hundreds of thousands of pounds, anyone can bolt on a buggered bonnet or a rusted up wing and so called discerning people seem to lap it up, whereas the ones that seem to wanna do things properly appear to get left in the shadows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStryder360 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Was having a discussion with a mate about this just the other day, altho I must say I don't understand it or appreciate it, I have spoken to a few lads who have done it to their cars and it seems to take more effort to pull off a good rat car, than to prep one and stick in into a bodyshop to get it looking factory. So I dunno, swings and roundabouts I guess, its like these 2 month old babies having their 'works of art' sold for hundreds of thousands of pounds, anyone can bolt on a buggered bonnet or a rusted up wing and so called discerning people seem to lap it up, whereas the ones that seem to wanna do things properly appear to get left in the shadows.There is still an art to doing rat cars. How to do it and be tasteful, its the same as the retro rat Beetles, they're amazing, and with the roofrack setup and Cola coolers, trike etc looking all in the right place, cant beat it, apart from a super clean, chocolate coloured, Beetle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbo Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I think the above beemers and mk1 look the balls, Mk3 not so much. Going to a show nowadays is just a case of wandering around and going "ooh a mk1 slammed on bbs" - "oooh a mk2 slammed on bbs" - "oooh a corrado slammed on bbs" etc etc. Any half wit can do that but to tastefully do rat actually takes some thought and creativity of your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny s Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 im personally not into the badly bodged gaffer tape and warning signs,thats just too far me thinks. but each to there own an all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 It's a laugh, isn't it? That rusty Beemer looks mint, and the mk3 probably had cack paint and was worth nothing, why not slam it and strip the paint off? Anything can look cool, as long as it's low enough...Most of hem are ****, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Green Giant Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Was having a discussion with a mate about this just the other day, altho I must say I don't understand it or appreciate it, I have spoken to a few lads who have done it to their cars and it seems to take more effort to pull off a good rat car, than to prep one and stick in into a bodyshop to get it looking factory. So I dunno, swings and roundabouts I guess, its like these 2 month old babies having their 'works of art' sold for hundreds of thousands of pounds, anyone can bolt on a buggered bonnet or a rusted up wing and so called discerning people seem to lap it up, whereas the ones that seem to wanna do things properly appear to get left in the shadows.to be fair its the complete opposite to that!that reference is more apparent to A LOT of the show and shine cars, where they have no clue HOW to modify a car so they get someone else to do it. ok so thats not exactly the same as your example either, but at least MOST of the guys that 'rat' their cars have thought about 'period' (i.e hotrod design etc) where as some of the 'show cars' have put in next to no effort! there are obviously exceptions for each arguement, but i think it is a load of rubbish to say that all forced rat cars are ****! at the end of the day, why does anyone 'modify' a car? to get attention? and what cars are attracting the most attention...? well i think this topic answers that! "Forced Rat Cars". I think that shows WHY people are doing their cars in this style! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStryder360 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Porn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I personally think it is **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusgrant Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I agree. And that MK3 your on about looked crap.I know see that there certainly are a few exceptions. Some of the above cars look awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picola Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Depends how its done. If its done well and though out well like the Two Faced Rocco then I'm into it.That is ftw to the max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 There is still an art to doing rat cars. How to do it and be tasteful, its the same as the retro rat Beetles, they're amazing, and with the roofrack setup and Cola coolers, trike etc looking all in the right place, cant beat it, apart from a super clean, chocolate coloured, Beetle.I wasn't saying there isn't an art to it or that all rat cars are thrown together, like I said, it appears MORE effort is needed to make a good rat car than to send one into a body shop and get it to look mint. You misunderstood me obviously. I was saying that alot of the ones you see on display dont appear to do the rat scene justice.to be fair its the complete opposite to that!that reference is more apparent to A LOT of the show and shine cars, where they have no clue HOW to modify a car so they get someone else to do it. ok so thats not exactly the same as your example either, but at least MOST of the guys that 'rat' their cars have thought about 'period' (i.e hotrod design etc) where as some of the 'show cars' have put in next to no effort! there are obviously exceptions for each arguement, but i think it is a load of rubbish to say that all forced rat cars are ****! at the end of the day, why does anyone 'modify' a car? to get attention? and what cars are attracting the most attention...? well i think this topic answers that! "Forced Rat Cars". I think that shows WHY people are doing their cars in this style!To be honest in my opinion its the finished product that is important especially when it comes to the owners putting them out on display for judges etc, not who put the graft in, again, don't get me wrong, the owners deserves plenty of respect for doing the work themselves, but that isn't the point. Also, I don't remember saying all rats are crap, I admit I dont fully appreciate it but also stated its possible to get good examples of them, so I'm not 'anti-rat'. Plus when I said about good examples being left in the shadows, that wasn't restricted to traditionally modified cars. I've seen brilliantly rat cars that have been left out of the trophies to be beaten by another rat simply because it was covered in tape and you could barely see the bodywork at all. But I also have seen alot of clean cars that have been looked after and you can see plenty of prior thought has been taken involving them, although I have no idea if the thought was by the owner or a bodyshop, and simply because they weren't breaking the boundaries with a new scene their effort wasn't rewarded, again simply because several rat cars had shown up, and in my admittedly limited knowledge of the rat scene they didn't seem to be very well handled jobs, but took the trophies anyway as it was different! I totally understand people wanting the attention and getting it with these cars, and at meets, going to the shops, whatever, they definately get it, and thats great, they're fun cars and thats what its all about, but at shows, in front of judges effort is effort, and I think it should be judged as such. Like I mentioned with the works of art, it doesn't take alot of effort for a toddler to play in paint, but some actual artists spend weeks, months, and years on a single piece and it would never fetch near the same money as the toddler's paintings, simply because its not fresh and new. Thats all I was saying, a good rat is a good rat and deserves to get credit, but that goes for a any other modified car, but it just seems to me that quality seems to be compromised for something different, and not always executed as well as it could be. Rant over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStryder360 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I wasn't saying there isn't an art to it or that all rat cars are thrown together, like I said, it appears MORE effort is needed to make a good rat car than to send one into a body shop and get it to look mint. You misunderstood me obviously. I was saying that alot of the ones you see on display dont appear to do the rat scene justice.Must have.Yeh I agree with you there! Not many Watercooled rat lookers down here in the southwest, apart from the unintentional ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Must be the salty air down there!! I didn't mean to jump down your throat mate or come across abit harsh, I thought I was making a good point and fairly tactfully too! Then I come back to the thread to see what appeared to be people misquoting me and was like 'oi!!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStryder360 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Oi!... yeh well my cars currently going for a rat look with the ever so popular rusty roof! Damn Plymouth sea mist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 You'll have to get down to a boat makers and ask what paint they use!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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