Blue Loop Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) They did make GTi's in Brussels towards the end of production (2005). AFAIK all Laser Blue ones came from Brussels (but I might be wrong here). Edited January 30, 2017 by Blue Loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 All laser blue are inferior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAB Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 German Wikipedia clarifies the production issue. Production of the GTi was switched to Brussels in 2003 but the 3L was always built in Wolfsburg, up until the end of production in 2005. This probably had something to do with the 3L sharing only about 20% of parts with a 'standard' Lupo although it shared the body shell with the GTi and the FSi. The FSi was also never built in Brussels; production ceased in 2003. RAB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 It does beg the question about how a car maker switches the location of a production line or assembly plant. A production line is a very big, complex beast. And then you have to have all the components nearby ready to fit... Switching location to chnage final trim or wheels or final stuff yes, but the entire line??? I find it hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 They did the same with the 9N3 polo, the last versions of those were built in South Africa. In fact, the last versions of the Mk3 Golf, mainly GTI's were also built in South Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechWrap Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 On 28/02/2017 at 8:22 AM, lupogtiboy said: They did the same with the 9N3 polo, the last versions of those were built in South Africa. In fact, the last versions of the Mk3 Golf, mainly GTI's were also built in South Africa. Really? Didn't know. That' cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR5V Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Suspect VW has all the assembly lines set up with the same underpinnings or able to accept a VW standard so they can swap out everything out without excessive downtime. all the need to do is change out the parts bins and train the workers. Nowt wrong with Brussels - quite partial to a bit of Moule et Frites - with lashings of mayo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 Mmm. I've long wondered about the differences between the various 1.6 twin cam vdub engines used in the Gti. I'm convinced the same basic lump was used in everything from Bora's, Mk4 Golfs various Seats and some Audis. I know the cam belt kits are the exact same across the range, the capacity is the same, so the only thing I can think of is the cam system (or profiles). Anyone? Just curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaparana Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, mk2 said: Mmm. I've long wondered about the differences between the various 1.6 twin cam vdub engines used in the Gti. I'm convinced the same basic lump was used in everything from Bora's, Mk4 Golfs various Seats and some Audis. I know the cam belt kits are the exact same across the range, the capacity is the same, so the only thing I can think of is the cam system (or profiles). Anyone? Just curious... I think most bog standard 16v in like the mk4 golf dont have VVC? Maybe the heads are different also, ports and valve sizes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 Makes sense that it's cam related, but can't be a big difference as they use the same cam belt (and small cam belt) set. I think the 1.6 16V Bora had VVT. @Rich will know which other VAG cars had the same lump (besides the Polo)... @Rich ??? There is a fair difference in power though- like 110 compared to 125. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 No cars shared that engine/box combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 The engine is unique in that the block is different to a Polo GTI AVY engine, they have similarities as in the head is the same, VVC on the exhaust side, twin cambelt system, but the block is a different part number, hence the Lupo gearbox doesn't fit. The Lupo block only fits the Lupo, even the sump is different on the Polo. The gearbox is also unique to the Lupo, though it's a close relative of one used on a Touran iirc, and the Up GTI uses a newer version of the 02U 6 speed Lupo gearbox, even down to some of the internals being the same, though it's designated an 0DQ gearbox in the Up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Some internals are the same. If you rebuild your Lupo box and use some Rocco bits then you will find something doesn't mate up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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