scottgroovez Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 the reason i'm asking is that i would like to know if the contact is raised up by 24mm to the outer edge as thats how its meant to be. yes you get a better braking effect. it wouldnt be a complete waste of time as the disc would not get overheated like the 256mm. i wouldnt bother with it though. if the calipers move to use the outer disc then it must be a good braking modification once stock setup upgrade options have been looked at.How the feck would you fit a bigger disc without the caliper also moving out? The caliper fits either side of the disc!!! Go and look up how calipers work before quoting utter *****! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 (edited) How the feck would you fit a bigger disc without the caliper also moving out? The caliper fits either side of the disc!!! Go and look up how calipers work before quoting utter *****!sometimes you can have clearance of quite a bit at top of caliper that would allow for bigger disc but not raise the contact point of pads. thats what i'm asking. it would be 12mm higher, half of 24mm diameter difference. Edited May 4, 2007 by qually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottgroovez Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 lol, ok explain how you would fit a larger brake disc without the caliper moving out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottgroovez Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Make up your mind what you are saying! All those edits makes it confusing as to what point you're trying to make. Google is your bestest friend it seems style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Make up your mind what you are saying! All those edits makes it confusing as to what point you're trying to make. Google is your bestest friend it seems style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />i never use google. just experience of many years. i somtimes dont say what i mean though, which can be confusing, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 lol, ok explain how you would fit a larger brake disc without the caliper moving out!ok what you do is take caliper off, and old disc. put bigger disc on and rebolt on the calipers. calipers can still fit if they have a high central cavity space on the bridge between. but the contact of pads would be in the same place, so not on the edge of the disc. i dont know if gti calipers are like this possibly not. so i guess they do get moved up with the g60 carriers then, so the only issue is the inside pad thickness because of the disc thickness differences... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 the whole point of using the g60 caliper carriers is to move the caliper outwards so that the caliper is in the CORRECT place for the larger disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOCK Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Its too sensative with the smaller brakes and mine used to kick in for the most stupid of things.......now its fine and kicks in when the car really needs itK thanks for being the only one to reply, I kinda know what you mean but I'm thankful of my ABS as it has saved my ass a couple of times lol.NOCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 the whole point of using the g60 caliper carriers is to move the caliper outwards so that the caliper is in the CORRECT place for the larger disc.understood.so how is the 3mm wider pads to disc gap sorted, 1.5mm too far apart either side of discs.lupo pads 16mm thick, g60 pads 19mm thick.i guess its better to use the g60 pads as otherwise you wont get much life out of the lupo pads to stay within piston travel tolerances if there is such a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 it doesn't matter, because, oh font of knowledge, the piston pushes the pad onto the disc, so 3 mm here or there ain't gonna make no difference! hence, the reason you can use lupo gti pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 K thanks for being the only one to reply, I kinda know what you mean but I'm thankful of my ABS as it has saved my ass a couple of times lol.NOCKyes i do think it is a little over sensitive, the reduction of this on g60 brakes may have something to do with using lupo pads for the g60 discs? as not enough as piston has reached it length but has still more pressure needed to apply a strong braking force, which the stock setup can do? if you get what i mean.it doesn't matter, because, oh font of knowledge, the piston pushes the pad onto the disc, so 3 mm here or there ain't gonna make no difference! hence, the reason you can use lupo gti padsdont get sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 don't assume you are the font of all knowledge on a public internet forumdon't assume that we are all thick and don't know what we're talking aboutthank you pleash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 understood.so how is the 3mm wider pads to disc gap sorted, 1.5mm too far apart either side of discs.lupo pads 16mm thick, g60 pads 19mm thick.Im using G60 calipers aswell, sorts that problem right out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linz Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 My ABS kicks in loads, especially in the rain - breaking over manhole covers etc. I am thinking of updating my break set up in a couple of months, looks like 280 is the way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartagram Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 How much does a 280mm disc conversion go for?My brakes are fine at the min but when they need replacing thinking of just upgrading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) standard discs circa £40 each quid, hangers guessing around 80- 90 quid but dont quote me on that. nice thing to thing about black diamond grooved discs for g60, maybe worthwhile spending a little extra for even better braking? Edited May 10, 2007 by scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartagram Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 WEll to be honest, I think the 256 discs are fine but I can see what people meaning about the ABS coming in when its not really needed. So it would be more to stop this happening than for super dooper stopping. Car is only running about 110bhp at the most and I never do three digit speeds so don't need face through the windscreen brakes style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Carriers are usually about £70 from eBay.Black Diamond Grooved discs and pads all round cost me £300 from venom, but they're not any more expensive than the 256's, in fact I think they're a little bit cheaper.Worthwhile doing if you're replacing your discs and pads anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_M Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 I paid £55 for a set of Ibiza Cupra carriers (same but newer than the G60 items if second hand), nearly new discs and brand new boxed Mintex pads on eBay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Well you're a jammy bu*ger aren't you. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> The carriers actually seem to go for more on there own than they do with the calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOCK Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 you cant brake later with bigger brake discs.Erm even i know that yes you can, that's the whole point!NOCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Erm even i know that yes you can, that's the whole point!NOCKhow does that work then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 don't assume you are the font of all knowledge on a public internet forumdon't assume that we are all thick and don't know what we're talking aboutthank you pleashi dont assume to be an expert, i just say what i think is right at the time. let people be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Erm even i know that yes you can, that's the whole point!NOCKhmmm ok then, if thats what you want to believe.Larger brakes wont stop you any quicker, your tyres are the weakest part of your braking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOCK Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 hmmm ok then, if thats what you want to believe.Larger brakes wont stop you any quicker, your tyres are the weakest part of your braking.What the hell of course they stop you quicker, why do ferrari's have like 360mm brakes or something like that if big brakes aren't good? They'd have real small ones if small ones were better. Also, with downhill mountain bikes big brakes are better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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