lizzy Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 I've got coilovers and an awesome rear ARB fitting to my arosa tdi. The rear arb is set to the stiffest and is fantastic but you soon get used to it. The handling is much better than it was but I want to reduce the body roll further. Where should I next put my funds? Standard Gti arb? Uprated front arb? Strut braces?Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Front arb aswell if you can get bigger ones. Just remember the stiffer the arb the better turn in and less roll you will get but the car could slide or understeer with less warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper_GTI Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Polybushes - honestly, they make as much difference (if not more) than uprated shocks.Then some grippy tyres (R888's/R1R's/A048's)After that, get a full geometry setup - camber, castor, toe angles etc. You really will be flying then buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkr Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Ii bought the Weichers strut braces, only fitted the rear and it made a slight difference, still got the front upper and lower to go on.Quite reasonably priced as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeA Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Wind you coilies up, decked coilies are bouncier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truCido Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 what coilovers you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy Posted April 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Coilovers are only JOM, but they aren't wound fully down as we've got a lot of speedbumps around us. Probably 10-15mm still to go on the rear and helper springs still in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koop Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Wind you coilies up, decked coilies are bouncier.Bouncier yes, but less travel = less roll surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeA Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 To an extent, but i know that the difference between mine being wound all the way down and having one inch of the threads makes it so much better to drive and less crashy and bouncy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koop Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Mine's wound up loads atm, I'm going to miss the awesome handling when I deck her again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeA Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 its true mine is not stupid low atm and not stupid high, think its staying that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisbee Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Wind you coilies up, decked coilies are bouncier.agreed, raised mine up and it handles and rides so much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy Posted April 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I'm happy with the handling. It's the body roll I want to reduce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeA Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Read above. Body roll is part of the handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treblet Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Winding the coilovers up will definitely help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thissy Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Invest in some better quality coilovers.. Being too stiff isn't ideal anyway.. One you have got rid of any under steer your laughing.. Stiffest setting on the awesome arb just aids oversteer when coupled with poly bushes and kw v1's when your really pushing on through the twistys.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thissy Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I have a brand new opm upper strut brace sat doing nothing.. Drop me a PM if your interested..mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Read above. Body roll is part of the handling.I agree, but what I am saying is the current level of handling/balance is fine. But less body roll would be better.I personally don't see how increasing the supension travel or polybushes will reduce body roll. Body roll has got to be a function of chassis stiffness and centre of gravity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truCido Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Because when your springs aren't compressed as much I.e. as low as possible then they have more travel before they rebound anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeA Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Jesus, people ask for help then argue with the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 'Argue' or asking for more substance to back up your claims? A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. If someone can back up claims with evidence I am more likely to listen. If someone can't then it sounds like hearsay. There is far too much miss-information on the internet. You got to try and sort the wheat from the chaff. All I'm trying to do is answer my original question.I usually find the people that first get defensive are the ones who know the least and don't like being questioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeA Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Or..... My car had **** loads of body roll when I bought it.I fitted a white line rear arb. It helped a little, but mainly reduced under steer.I fitted KW v1s, they helped a lot, I had them adjusted about halfway down the threads. Shows season came, I slammed it, it bounced around. I wound them back up, its firm and flat through the twisties again now. If I push it hard enough it'll three wheel, it used to just flop over with all wheels still on the ground.I'm speaking from experience and don't have to justify my claims. You don't have to listen to anything or anyone, ofcourse. But, my suggestion to wind the coilies up came from the fact that I've been there and done that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 There you go then, a bit of substance to back up your claims. That is what I'm after!I'm probably only down 45-50mm though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeA Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 If there's one thing I'll say is trust me, I just ignore threads I can't answer or post irrelevant ****....What coils are you on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver! Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 To be fair, if ou have done all that and are still unhappy with body roll, I would be looking at the coilovers. My GTI is on KW v1s, no other suspension mod's and I occasionally take the long to and from the bingo for a bit of a blast and I have no problem with roll. Bends ahead... by Ray Crabb, on Flickr ...and the understeer is fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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