Toi gulp Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 My nearside xenon went on the blink last night and hasn't been great today. (sometimes wouldnt turn on when the switch was turned.) anyway upon finding the cost of new bulb and a transformer unit i began to wander whether the xenons were actually worth it........How easy is it to convert a gti to standard lupo lights, can save a bit of wieght then by loosing the headlight washers too and theyre less risky of getting damaged on a trackday and i could go for the cup car look and get a ram air feed sorted nicely. does the wiring loom need changing or are they a straight swap?lastly does anyone know what these nylon adjustment gears are? i'm assuming range control but want a second opinion before i start fiddling with things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99hjhm Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 They adjust direction, like any normal headlamp..... ps... If anybody has a good OS headlamp, I'm in need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 The white thing moves the beam up and down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 They brake very easily so be careful.The correct way to adjust those lights is by going tin to vagcom, and putting the headlight in to learning mode, then adjusting the light using the white bit. Then going back to vagcom and telling it that the position you have just put it in is the datum for adjustment.Its all gay and long winded.Im not sure, but isnt the cup cat a sort of inbred between the gti and sport??John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Im not sure, but isnt the cup cat a sort of inbred between the gti and sport??JohnYeah the Lupo Cup's were indeed a 1.4 16v engine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 They brake very easily so be careful.The correct way to adjust those lights is by going tin to vagcom, and putting the headlight in to learning mode, then adjusting the light using the white bit. Then going back to vagcom and telling it that the position you have just put it in is the datum for adjustment.Yeah, I wouldn't take the risk of adjusting them without vagcom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toi gulp Posted August 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 eh? a 1.4 surely not.........a sport with a gti body? the BTC was a 1600 though and that had standard headlights. i'll be gentle with the adjuster today then, try and get a little bit more range after lowering makes you loose some lolright then i know changing the lights can be done but i'm hoping i wont have to change wiring in th process, if only you didnt have to take the bumper off to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I adjusted mine a substantial amountjust with the dial, seems fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupoluke Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Can i have first DIBS on the gti lamps if you come to get rid mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99hjhm Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) The VAG-COM part willl center the headlighs, but the alignment(bit thats checked on a MOT) is adjusted via the two nylon screws.... One of mine is busted!In theory, the range control should be reset when the car is lowered, as the self leveling will not be centered.Edit:: All is explained here....VAG-COM link. Edited August 15, 2009 by 99hjhm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toi gulp Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Can i have first DIBS on the gti lamps if you come to get rid mate.I turn the roundabout on the way home and what do i recognise in my mirrors..... a red lupo with a black bonnet lol. i need to get out more!sorry i wasnt very talkative mate i was shattered, after being dragged through 3hrs of harry snotter with the GF. Anyway if i lost the xenons i'd still have to keep hold of them i'm affraid. beacuse of the price i wouldnt fancy having to buy another set at a later date.theres only one way to find out though buy a headlight from a standard lupo plug it in and see if it works!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupoluke Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Its all good pall, i cant stand harry potter either lol, just minutes after i saw you i seen another black gti in the shell garage, i told him to get his arse on club lupo .Oh and its not black its carbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 The Cup cars were steel bodied as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toi gulp Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I've seen another black gti around here too but i know he's not on the forum, last time i saw him he had in my opinion rather ugly cheap 'bling' (dunno what that means) wheels on it lol.and i correct myself carbon yes.....very nice!!! as for the cup car i supose they lost the ali panels for the sake of cost, same would go for the Xenons then i supose. ok then i'm going for the BTC look. time to get some standard lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupoluke Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Yes i noticed them, i didnt say out tho cause he has a bigger engine , his brother has just got a 1.0L as well, lets hope he doesnt crash it to halfords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toi gulp Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 does anyone have any standard lupo headlights for sale?...in working order.......i'm going to go ahead with a headlight conversion but i'll be keeping the xenon's for now.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupo pete Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Ok one of my xenons is shining high who has vag com in the manchester areaor can anybody recommend a place to take my loopi need to sort it before the dark nights roll in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_M Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 (edited) Regarding the standard Lupo headlights on a GTi, the wiring would be quite different due to the location of bulbs etc used. The sidelight on the GTI is not part of the main unit, where it is with the normal Lupo and the same again for the idicatiors.Main beam is alo not part of the main headlight on the GTI where it is on the normal Lupo...............a lot of rewiring and harness extending to get it all to work as it should. Please correct me if I am wrong as not too hot on the Non GTI headlights.GTI Main unitDipped beam (xenon)Indicator (seperated off)GTI 2nd unitSide LightMain Beam--------------------------------------------------Normal Lupo Main unitSide LightDipped BeamMain BeamNormal Lupo 2nd unitIndicator Edited September 7, 2009 by Mike_M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_M Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 There are also 4 bulbs for the GTI and 3 for the non GTI interms of the harness etc.On another note, I would be interested to see if you can get it all to work.......an interesting challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toi gulp Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I'll be getting a workshop manual for the car and i i can get my hands on one main lamp i'll plug it in and see how it works. the indicator will be reloacted to sit in the bottom of the main lamp as plan 'A'. Yes wiring may have to be re-routed but that shouldnt be too difficult.the inner lights will be removed anyway if i can otherwise the indcator wil just go in a modified inner light, plan 'B'. i know it wont be a 5 minute conversion but it should be straight forward if the wiring looms are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_M Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Create a how to as it looks interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toi gulp Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 will do as the xenon's are ridiculously expensive. rahter vulnerable to tyre walls on track days too lol......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99hjhm Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Ok one of my xenons is shining high who has vag com in the manchester areaor can anybody recommend a place to take my loopi need to sort it before the dark nights roll inYou don't need VAG-COM, just look under the bonnet, on the headlamp there are 2 nylon adjuster screws, best do it on a beam alignment tool like the one at a MOT station.Adjusters in mine are broken, and in my spare one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toi gulp Posted September 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 (edited) Need help!!! i have most of the parts to convert the headlights bu i have been informed about a potential problem with the GTi's wiring loom. as it runs Xenon's it has a transformer in the headlight which steps up the voltage, but what about the current..........the Xenon bulbs use a 35w current and a standard lights are something like twice that so would a standard bulb still work well on a lower current?And for the electronics expert out there what would be best with wiring if there is any doubt over the rating of the wires is it best to put slightly larger wires in the new bridging loom (an intermediary loom where the wires will be re-directed to the correct points and location).please help.Thanks Edited September 11, 2009 by Toi gulp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toi gulp Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 i replaced the nearside bulb and it was fine for a whilke but now its playing up again and this time round both headlights are occasionally going out...needless to say this is dangerous so need to pick up on the conversion,does anyone have any recomendations on the current flow difference between the two lights?thanksAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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