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Maybe borrow a tractor to pull it out? Its got to have sunk in a few inches into the grass by now! laugh.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Edit: Must learn to read properly, just seen its on the patio! doh.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doh:" border="0" alt="doh.gif" />

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Thats cool news, finally it looks like it has a chance of running again. I bet the Polo will not get a look in once the Lupo is back.

Hope it all goes well.

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Tigz - Will you post up a complete shopping list of parts required, when you've finished?

Ive been admiring this project for sometime, and its got me inspired!

Hope you don't have to wait too much longer.

Matt

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TBH everything thats needed is mixed up in the silly amount of pages in this thread!

Of course, if you can wait for this to finish, I cant promised you'll see me again on the forum.

I may just pack my bags and drive forever! laugh.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Max, I need a Tractor to pull my Renault 19 16v from the mud thats in the way of the Lupo!

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A shame you cant finnish it yourself as to me thats what made this project so special but i still cant wait to see and most of all hear it finnished at a show so hopefully ultimate dubs wink.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> (march) if poss

and thought you couldnt use the polo ecu as they dont provide enough scope for remapping confused.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> swear that was why you were going for standalone management?

and why have you got the polo gti by the way? thought you had another car to get about in or was that R19 thats buried?

good luck with the progress i didnt think you were doing that bad to be honest but youll be bloody happy when its back im sure

wayne

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I dont have the time TBH mate.

I finish work and get home for 5om, but have hloe until 7pm each night while Emma goes to the Gym.

I may have to do away with the Polo ECU idea yet, I'm awaiting on JBS to do a bit of research into it, but the guesses that there wouldn't be enough scope looks to be true.

We have a Saxo as a runner round, but I'm bored of having no car so bought the Polo.

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spoke to jbs tigz said they were in the process of doing you know what wink.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> for what i need laugh.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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I sent them the details of my ECU also, hes unsure if they will have enough adjustment in the stock ECU for what I want sad.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

May have to sell the bike to pay for an aftermarket kit sad.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

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The Lupo has moved!

Tes it was towed, but it did move at least! lol

Even got most of the front end bolted back on DSC00047.jpg border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" />

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well its good to see that it will be ready for a few battles on the strip next year i so cant wait biggrin.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

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  • 3 weeks later...

erm... Twice the recovery truck didn't turn up, and both times I was releaved.

Decided to leave the car here but forgot to tell my supplier.

Just got home after a night and day in London and found the cars gone!

The bloke turned up on my street, and waited 30 mins blocking the road off until Emma got home.

He'd turned up on a 44ft transporter! lol:

Oh well, its gone now.

The car will return just needing wireing and mapping.

May get him to paint her while its away...

Sorry for the bad photo.

Just look at the amount of wheels on the rear of the trailer lol

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erm... Twice the recovery truck didn't turn up, and both times I was releaved.

Decided to leave the car here but forgot to tell my supplier.

Just got home after a night and day in London and found the cars gone!

The bloke turned up on my street, and waited 30 mins blocking the road off until Emma got home.

He'd turned up on a 44ft transporter! lol:

Oh well, its gone now.

The car will return just needing wireing and mapping.

May get him to paint her while its away...

Sorry for the bad photo.

Just look at the amount of wheels on the rear of the trailer lol

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EH what have i missed Andi is you sening your car away for sorting?

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Yes, some one offered to build the car back together for me, and check everything I had done was done correctly.

Sad to see her gone though sad.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Roll on Febuary biggrin.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

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Yes, some one offered to build the car back together for me, and check everything I had done was done correctly.

Sad to see her gone though sad.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Roll on Febuary biggrin.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Nice one Andi. Takes a bit of pressure off you then .. Any more thoughts on the Family sized care then?

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More progess at least.

Just ordered a pre-built, ready to roll Megasquirt Extra squirt & Spark V3.0 board with in built MAP sensor and all automotive grade components.

Comes with labled loom, mapping software, and a VW base map.

The company has been importing the bits, and building them up for sale since Febuary and have not had any problems with the kit.

They can be bought for £270 including delivery.

I managed to get that down a little though <IMG SRC="style_emoticons/default/wink.gif"> style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Had to send them a cheque though, so delivery should be around 10 days including giving the cheque time to clear.

Getting excited!

MTech Automotive LTD.

07891328829

66 Westbury Leigh

Westbury

Wiltshire

BA13 3SQ

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Nice one, Whats the main differences with this kinda ecu compared to something like a motec ecu. I kno the motec units are more than double the price? but can the megasquirt be programmed and set up the same as a more expensive ecu? Thanks Dave

and as far as ecu's are concerned, the standard 4av unit fitted to the 1.4 models is more than capable of handling forced induction engined cars, they can be reprogrammed by poeple like custom code or revo to do almost anything

If this is true why are you changing your ecu to an aftermarket one? I dont understand? Thanks Dave

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More progess at least.

Just ordered a pre-built, ready to roll Megasquirt Extra squirt & Spark V3.0 board with in built MAP sensor and all automotive grade components.

Comes with labled loom, mapping software, and a VW base map.

The company has been importing the bits, and building them up for sale since Febuary and have not had any problems with the kit.

They can be bought for £270 including delivery.

I managed to get that down a little though wink.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Had to send them a cheque though, so delivery should be around 10 days including giving the cheque time to clear.

Getting excited!

MTech Automotive LTD.

07941 842985

66 Westbury Leigh

Westbury

Wiltshire

BA13 3SQ

WOOP WOOP!!!

Thats it all covered then dude!

thats a sweet price with all the loom an that!

shouldnt be too long now really, just lots of wiring fun. and some mapping!!

AWESOME!

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I kno the motec units are more than double the price? but can the megasquirt be programmed and set up the same as a more expensive ecu?

Theres a few differences.

But non of which will give you any more power.

Something like a Motec has been developed for years, the software is pretty user friendly, and the big name engine mappers will tell you it is easier to map.

As the Mega squirt is not as well non (its getting there though) the big name players will tell you it will take them longer to map, as they will have to learn how to map it so it will cost you more money.

This isn't really true, the theory behind what you are trying to do when building a map is the same, it is only the software that is different.

TBH I am not spending more than double the amount on a part, just to make it easier for a mapping company to make money out of me.

There is a few company's who will map this ECU now so its not so much of an issue.

If this is true why are you changing your ecu to an aftermarket one?

Because I would need to buy and replace my loom as my loom is for a 8v 1.0 engine.

Then there is questions on how much adjustment is in the standard ECU.

I'll get a better result with the stand alone system TBH.

thats a sweet price with all the loom an that!

shouldnt be too long now really, just lots of wiring fun. and some mapping!!

I'm really impressed with the price, and like I said I got a little knocked off )

What ECU did you end up going with?

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i have ordered two books one on engine management think its the haynes one and a book on supercharging design installation and testing so gonna try and get more clued up then ill begin the work. Im gonna phone around mappers to see if it will be possible to use my standard ecu, if not ill prob go with an aftermarket ecu. Dave

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I'm really impressed with the price, and like I said I got a little knocked off )

What ECU did you end up going with?

im running the 1600 on stock stuff shades.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" />

hoping to stick to it for the next set of mods as well, but if i cant, then megasquirt is where i will head

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Just done the list for my mate in Scotland.

Doesn't seem that much really now its all wrote down.

Theres some bodywork on the list also, but thats private wink.gif style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Rear Shocker Bump stops are perished Although new ones will need cutting down to the same size as they are now.

Front brake flexi (Lupo GTI)

Clean up front discs – New front pads (Euro car parts sell cheap OE Spec – Lupo/Polo GTI)

I have the N/S calliper and carrier here, will send it up.

Rear drums have done 30k mile, and after being stood so long, I expect they'll need relining.

Check I've fitted the front Anti roll bar correctly.

The N/S track rod end needs adjusting (like you couldn't see!)

Drive shafts need a couple of coats of black paint before fitting.

I cleaned out and re greased one, but didn't get round to the second one.

There is a gearbox mount bolt missing.

Mike dropped it when we fitted the engine and we couldn't find it.

New Lamba probe needed to fit to new manifold.

Wiring needs extending.

I'm trying to get hold of a wide band sensor, will let you know when I find one.

Stainless Flexi fitting to Manifold Down pipe (also found this in the house, will send it to you.)

Spacer plate manifold requires one hole elongating to be bolted to the head.

Two holes required into the ports – One for MAP Sensor (Built into ECU) – One for vacuum feed for Servo.

Throttle bodies require O Rings (Two I think are missing?) If you don't have any let me know and I'll get a set sent to you from Jenvey.

I've just remembered about the filter socks, I'll order a set and send them up.

Throttle cable is attached to throttle pedal, but is not cut to size.

The ECU I going to be fitted in the centre of the dash under the head unit (Theres a hole for two dins) and the plate for the LEDs and Serial port connection to the front (I'll make up a cover plate later)

Loom will need feeding through the N/S of the bulk head.

Dash needs fitting.

(All the torque bolts are in a cardboard box on the passenger seat.)

Windscreen wiper scuttle panel got stood on, I'm still hunting a replacement, although I'm bored of looking so may as well get one new from dealer. Bolts are in box with dash bolts.

Lower door panels are at my house, as they have been flocked.

The rest of the light grey panels will also be flocked so no need to fit any of this colour.

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