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6 minutes ago, LR5V said:

Thanks - will check the brakes and discs out - didn't realise euros did Brembo discs

Yeah if you go under the performance section they are there. Also, if you copy the product code and search it on Carparts4less, they are normally cheaper as well👍🏼

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On 7/25/2018 at 3:27 PM, CLAYTONJONES said:

Well i’m back from a long weekend at the Nürburgring, if you have never been I highly advise you to go. The most incredible place i’ve ever been, a petrol heads dream! The Lupo performed faultlessly and not a single issue! Oh and the tyre writing didn’t last, a permanent solution is being worked on.

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Look of the car and these pics are just great!

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Finally got the freshly powder costed rear beam back, so i got it all built back up today. Went and had the alignment done, came out spot on. car drives incredible now! Just waiting for the RARB brackets to turn up then that can go back on. 

 

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Looking great -

what bushes did you go for? and those discs also look tasty

Cant remember what rear ARB you run - if its a Whiteline the drop links go on the outside of the beam like on mine:

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I wish my shocks were more like yours being not so crusty!

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Just now, LR5V said:

Looking great -

what bushes did you go for? and those discs also look tasty

Cant remember what rear ARB you run - if its a Whiteline the drop links go on the outside of the beam like on mine:

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I wish my shocks were more like yours being not so crusty!

I went for OEM. Purely because i don’t want the ride being any stiffer than it is.

Yeah it is a whiteline, glad you posted that as I couldn’t remember haha! 

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Really loving the attention to detail on this. looking good.

What did you get the front alignment set to? :)

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1 hour ago, cj1 said:

Really loving the attention to detail on this. looking good.

What did you get the front alignment set to? :)

Thanks! Sorry i thought i added the alignment sheet, i’ll put it in now!

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Front subframe needs to be moved a tiny amount if the caster is out. Right side needs to go forward. No idea how to easily work out by how much. I'd try about 2 mm to start. I s'pose you could measure everything then do the geometry maths.... :)

 

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5 minutes ago, mk2 said:

Front subframe needs to be moved a tiny amount if the caster is out. Right side needs to go forward. No idea how to easily work out by how much. I'd try about 2 mm to start. I s'pose you could measure everything then do the geometry maths.... :)

 

I didn’t know the castor could be adjusted on these, handy to know for next time👍🏼

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13 minutes ago, LR5V said:

Solid figures - is it Exhaust manifold + system and filter all you have had done engine wise?

 

Yeah i was pleased! Thats it, fresh engine rebuild a couple of years ago so that must take part :)

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Nah, not good enough. You're leaning out at high revs (assuming the probe is fast). 

Also too rich at low revs. My guess is that you need bigger injectors. Or fuel pump. Or both.

You will be able to get at least another 20hp and a decent amount more torque too. Look at the torque plot- best torque when mix was ideal (14.7ish) 3-3500 RPM. Too rich and too lean it drops. May want add a load of timing too. Your plenum is designed for high RPMs so it is clear you need to change the torque plot- almost like there's a fault right now.

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8 hours ago, mk2 said:

Nah, not good enough. You're leaning out at high revs (assuming the probe is fast). 

Also too rich at low revs. My guess is that you need bigger injectors. Or fuel pump. Or both.

You will be able to get at least another 20hp and a decent amount more torque too. Look at the torque plot- best torque when mix was ideal (14.7ish) 3-3500 RPM. Too rich and too lean it drops. May want add a load of timing too. Your plenum is designed for high RPMs so it is clear you need to change the torque plot- almost like there's a fault right now.

Definitely no fault, i’m sure all of that will be dealt with when it’s getting mapped.

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What rating are Gti injectors? - funny that this crops up now, I had been trying to find out without any luck.

I would be tempted to grab some standard Mk4 Golf1.8t ones they are good for 220bhp, that is if they fit. Got this pump sitting in my ebay wish list Sytec Hi In-Tank Fuel Injection Pump

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13 minutes ago, LR5V said:

What rating are Gti injectors? - funny that this crops up now, I had been trying to find out without any luck.

I would be tempted to grab some standard Mk4 Golf1.8t ones they are good for 220bhp, that is if they fit. Got this pump sitting in my ebay wish list Sytec Hi In-Tank Fuel Injection Pump

I’ve heard from several people that the GTI ones are good for 190-200bhp🤷🏼‍♂️

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3 hours ago, CLAYTONJONES said:

I’ve heard from several people that the GTI ones are good for 190-200bhp🤷🏼‍♂️

Depends on what engine they are from  - https://18t-tuning.co.uk/fuel-advice/injectors-and-recommendations/ - if I was getting used injectors I would be looking for ARZ, AUM, AUQ type, a lot more common / easier to source.  I am fortunate to have a great fixed price scrap yard not far from me with great prices

How much power are you shooting for?

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2 hours ago, LR5V said:

Depends on what engine they are from  - https://18t-tuning.co.uk/fuel-advice/injectors-and-recommendations/ - if I was getting used injectors I would be looking for ARZ, AUM, AUQ type, a lot more common / easier to source.  I am fortunate to have a great fixed price scrap yard not far from me with great prices

How much power are you shooting for?

I’d like to make the 160 mark but who knows! Do you know what yours is running?

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Bigger injectors make it more difficult to get a good smooth idle. The pulses need to be much shorter to deliver the same amount of fuel which makes the mixture erratic. So you need to think how much traffic driving you'll be doing.....

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19 hours ago, CLAYTONJONES said:

I’d like to make the 160 mark but who knows! Do you know what yours is running?

the PO didn't mention anything about changing them - I think they are standard, just ran out and took this picture, its dark if there is an obvious PN I have missed it!:

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11 hours ago, mk2 said:

Bigger injectors make it more difficult to get a good smooth idle. The pulses need to be much shorter to deliver the same amount of fuel which makes the mixture erratic. So you need to think how much traffic driving you'll be doing.....

Yes, but DBW throttle and lambda sensors should keep it reasonably in shape. Slightly related - I was expecting idle to be lumpy with my bigger cams, but there is nothing to suggest its got them at idle, just the same as my Golf.

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Yesterday, me and a good friend of mine spent the day fitting the new parts to the Lupo. Port match and gas flowed head, polished inlet manifold and a set of Piper cams. Also had the cam cover and inlet powder coated black, looks much better IMO. I didn’t get as much pictures as i’d of liked but we just wanted to crack on.

Took it for a run to London last night to give the cams some time to bed in. Car drives perfectly! Mapping is on the 21st November with Wayne at ChipWizards.

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Good work - standard intake takes up so much space

What spec of cams did you go for & did you get any info on the injectors?

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