drummachine Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Im in need of some new pads and discs on my GTI very very soon. Instead of putting VW genuine pads and discs in from work i fancy upgrading the brakes.Anyone have any recommendations for me and where to look?Chris style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_M Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Do the 280mm conversion........cheaper and bigger discs too.....helps stop the ABS from kicking in.You will need Replacement caliper carriers from the G60, Ibiza Cupra Mk4 etcNormal GTI padsNew 280mm x 22mm 4 stud discs (cheaper than the standard GTI stuff and there is more available on the market) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vworks41 Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 My brakes will need replacing soon and the 280 upgrade is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyA Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 The way forward is some nice 4 pots! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vworks41 Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 The way forward is some nice 4 pots! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" />Nice, get ur money out though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I've heard good things about mintex discs and pads, they're probably be what i'll get when i next change mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOCK Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Do the 280mm conversion.......helps stop the ABS from kicking in.Sorry if this sounds stupid, but why would you want to STOP the ABS from working? Surely ABS is a good thing?NOCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrat Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 consider also that unless you are experiencing regular brake fade the stock brakes are ok, and you will have slower acceleration with the 280mm conversion due to the extra unsprung weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 can't say i've noticed any difference with regards to acceleration due to the g60 brakescan definitely say that it stops bettercan definitely say that the abs doesn't kick in as often as it use to, ie over very minor bumps when braking ect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Chi-i Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 can't say i've noticed any difference with regards to acceleration due to the g60 brakescan definitely say that it stops bettercan definitely say that the abs doesn't kick in as often as it use to, ie over very minor bumps when braking ect...i agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vworks41 Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 When pushing hard the standard set up ain't much cop in my opinion.Looking forward for less brake fade with the 280's and if I can stretch for the 4pot brembo's that would be awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 i agree that when in full attack mode the brakes can fade. competition type pads will avoid that, or the bigger disc upgrade. i would love some 6 pot aluminium calipers and alloy bell discs. 280mm/300mm would be ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 but then your talking silly money,the 280mm upgrade is nice quick and cheap upgrade!should have been factory fitted on the gti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 i'm not quite sure how the pistons are in the correct position for a 280mm disc when they are in the correct place for a 256mm disc. surely the setup cant be right for braking force? maybe this is why the abs kicks in less? you would still get the better resistance to fading as the disc is bigger though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 the caliper carrier moves the caliper outwards, thus moving the piston outwards as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 (edited) you mean it moves the caliper upwards by 24mm to reach the outer rim of the disc circumfrence? ie when the 280mm disc starts wearing from the gti pads you can see the contact right from the outer edge of the disc rim, no gap where the pads dont touch at the outside edge.. Edited May 4, 2007 by qually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 the pads on a g60 are the same shape/size as the lupo gti ones, just a bit thicker due to the original lupo discs being 25mm thick, and the g60's are 22mm thickthe only difference between the calipers is the brake pipe that connects them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottgroovez Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 i'm not quite sure how the pistons are in the correct position for a 280mm disc when they are in the correct place for a 256mm disc. surely the setup cant be right for braking force? maybe this is why the abs kicks in less? you would still get the better resistance to fading as the disc is bigger though.That's the whole point of fitting bigger brakes. Even if it was possible, if the caliper stayed in the same place then fitting bigger discs would be a complete waste of time. Think of a brake like a kiddies roundabout. If you grab the edge you'll slow it down, grab the middle and you'll probably twist your wrist off style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottgroovez Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 PS What's the weight difference in the standard setup over the 280mm upgrade? Hardly think it would effect acceleration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 just held both discs in my hands and couldn't really tell any difference tbh. surely being able to brake a bit later ultimately leads to a slight advantage when it comes to those 'racing' situations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_M Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 (edited) Sorry if this sounds stupid, but why would you want to STOP the ABS from working? Surely ABS is a good thing?Its too sensative with the smaller brakes and mine used to kick in for the most stupid of things.......now its fine and kicks in when the car really needs it Edited May 4, 2007 by mike_m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 (edited) just held both discs in my hands and couldn't really tell any difference tbh. surely being able to brake a bit later ultimately leads to a slight advantage when it comes to those 'racing' situations?you cant brake later with bigger brake discs.can you stik them on scales to get a weight in kgs? Edited May 4, 2007 by qually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clouseau Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 (edited) That's the whole point of fitting bigger brakes. Even if it was possible, if the caliper stayed in the same place then fitting bigger discs would be a complete waste of time. Think of a brake like a kiddies roundabout. If you grab the edge you'll slow it down, grab the middle and you'll probably twist your wrist off style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />the reason i'm asking is that i would like to know if the contact is raised up by 24mm to the outer edge as thats how its meant to be. yes you get a better braking effect. it wouldnt be a complete waste of time as the disc would not get overheated like the 256mm. i wouldnt bother with it though. if the calipers move to use the outer disc then it must be a good braking modification once stock setup upgrade options have been looked at. Edited May 4, 2007 by qually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ID modds Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Do the 280mm conversion........cheaper and bigger discs too.....helps stop the ABS from kicking in.You will need Replacement caliper carriers from the G60, Ibiza Cupra Mk4 etcNormal GTI padsNew 280mm x 22mm 4 stud discs (cheaper than the standard GTI stuff and there is more available on the market)Are you saying if you have a gti all you will need to upgrade your front brakes to 280 are the caliper carriersand the discs and some new gti pads ? And use your original calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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