LiamD Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 After quite a silly bit of driving last night which a Police horsebox driver took offence to, he took down the G's reg number then told me to expect "something" in the post.I'm just wondering if Section 59's can be issued by post? I'm sure a few peeps on here will have had one before.I very much doubt it will be a speeding ticket, as he doesn't have a camera. It could be considered dangerous driving but then it's his word against mine.Personally I think he's just trying to scare me but I am intrigued by the Section 59 thing as some mates said they can be issued by post, just wondering if anyone else had had a similar experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricpanda Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) Could report you for reckless driving but can't give you a ticket. Nothing will probably come of it mate. Edited September 19, 2008 by electricpanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Can't give you a ticket? Why not?...It could be a speeding ticket - his word backed up by the calibrated speedo in his car/van, it could be a careless/dangerous driving NIP, or it could be S59. Don't forget that applies to you and to the car.Were you read your rights, and did you get any paperwork? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clairey Fairy Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Were you read your rightsI thought that was when you die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricpanda Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) He has no proof he was speeding, he would have issued a ticket to him and told him he was reporting him for the offence/read rights?? Edited September 19, 2008 by electricpanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Unfortunately, case law dissagrees - one plod with a speedo matching your speed is enough to convict for speeding. Two plod on the pavement with no speed measuring equipment at all can 'catch you speeding' if they are in agreement that you were speeding.A NIP doesn't have to be served at the roadside, but has to be served within 14 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted September 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 It was one police officer, parked up in a horsebox. He would have no idea how fast I was going.He doesn't know who was driving and didn't take my name as I ended up parked up in that car park with my friends so he didn't know who was driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Well you can rule out speeding then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricpanda Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) Yea I know wht your saying. I think its a officer disgression thing.Me an my mate were pissing around the other week in his car and some police officers were on the pavement, he was doing some speed at about 3am id say more that double limit easy. We got roadblocked by 2vans and 4 police cars about 2 miles down the road, basicly pulled outa the car, checked, searched an questioned etc but they said they had no evidence that we was speeding or being reckless apart from cctv on the road which isnt sufficient to provide a conviction. All they could do is issue a car asbo if he continues to "offend". I think you should be ok unless your really really unlucky. Edited September 19, 2008 by electricpanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Yea I know wht your saying. I think its a officer disgression thing.Me an my mate were pissing around the other week in his car and some police officers were on the pavement, he was doing some speed at about 3am id say more that double limit easy. We got roadblocked by 2vans and 4 police cars about 2 miles down the road, basicly pulled outa the car, checked, searched an questioned etc but they said they had no evidence that we was speeding or being reckless apart from cctv on the road which isnt sufficient to provide a conviction. All they could do is issue a car asbo if he continues to "offend". I think you should be ok unless your really really unlucky.I think you were lucky there - guessing they were after more than just speeders, and he probably said that to give you a scare. They had way more than enough to secure a conviction, the chances may be that they didn't even know that themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_Kez Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I think you were lucky there - guessing they were after more than just speeders, and he probably said that to give you a scare. They had way more than enough to secure a conviction, the chances may be that they didn't even know that themselves.my mate has been travelling at 115mph down the a38 then ended up being followed by a panda car Didn't get done for speeding even though there were two police men in the vehicle,they had no speed measuring equipment so could not provide enough physical evidence to give him any points, or a fine etc...imo he was lucky, however the police clearly couldn't have done anything...they only managed to catch up at a red light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricpanda Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) I think you were lucky there - guessing they were after more than just speeders, and he probably said that to give you a scare. They had way more than enough to secure a conviction, the chances may be that they didn't even know that themselves.Yea I know we were lucky and Im so glad I knew the copper and he didnt search us properly haha Edited September 19, 2008 by electricpanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_Kez Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Yea I know we were lucky and Im glad I knew the copper and he didnt search us properly haha*cough* stoner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricpanda Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) *cough* stoner that and I found it amusing to bring my kosh out to scare my mate and had it in my pocket area I s**t it... Edited September 19, 2008 by electricpanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_Kez Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 that and I found it amusing to bring my kosh out to scare my mate and had it in my pocket area I s**t it... ooo get sent down for that boyo **** yah self all you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 A section 59 warning is from the Police Reform Act 2002. Essentially its a marker for future reference placed on both the individual and the vehicle in question. It was originally brought in to deal with the rising problem of youths riding mini-motos around parks etc.It can be delivered by post, although it would normally be hand delivered. Essentially, if it is this, if you are seen driving any vehicle in an anti-social manner, or anyone is seen driving your vehicle in an anti social manner said vehicle will be seized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupoluke Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 ooo get sent down for that boyo **** yah self all you want you just about get sent down for murder these days. you would have prob just got it confiscated and a slap on the wrists lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plug Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Scaretactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 YES a Section 59 or "CASBO" can be issued by post and it does not have to be against the driver of the vehicle, It can be against the vehicle itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Al, that answers my question.I shall await my Section 59 and join the infamous club for those that have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putney Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Unfortunately, case law dissagrees - one plod with a speedo matching your speed is enough to convict for speeding. Two plod on the pavement with no speed measuring equipment at all can 'catch you speeding' if they are in agreement that you were speeding.A NIP doesn't have to be served at the roadside, but has to be served within 14 days.mate,i was pulled over on the bike for over 100 in a 40 mph and reported for dangerous driving........ They were trying to do me for 70mph over the speed limit, and running a red light... It was thrown out due to lack of evidence...you will be fine mate.... stick to your guns they have to prove you were speeding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 it does not have to be against the driver of the vehicle, It can be against the vehicle itself.It would be against both the driver and the vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) It would be against both the driver and the vehicleIt can be against the vehicle itself also. A customer of ours had one set against his car when his brother was driving it like a nob endland the point I'm making by that is the fact his brother never got pulled over nor did he get in any **** for it Edited September 20, 2008 by nfbr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 It can be against the vehicle itself also. A customer of ours had one set against his car when his brother was driving it like a nob endland the point I'm making by that is the fact his brother never got pulled over nor did he get in any **** for itSorry, I thought you meant the officer could just give one to the vehicle, but not the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 lol. Well since the post was to find out weather one could be sent through the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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