beska133 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Hi all,Im after some pure white looking headlights, that are very bright on the road, im tried all the halfords premium ultra brilliance and philips x-treme vision and they are all yellow looking and are yellow on the road.If you see the new bmws, they all have pure white headlights and light up the road well,Please recomend me some which i can pick up tomorrow! (Running out of £40 a pop for 'the best headlight you can buy' crap) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannonball Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Sounds like from your description you'll be needing HID's ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty_82 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Which will soon fail an mot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannonball Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Only if they are left in from next year , it takes all of 5 minutes to swap back to halogen bulbs for that one day a year. And there is no need to remove or hide the transformer as they can be there for off road use.There are no other bulbs to give you that white look yet beska. Osram have a 20% upgrade on halogen with their Cool Blue range (tried) but at only 4000 kelvin they still look yellow next to hid lamps. Ring offer the xenonmax which im currently on and are brighter by lots but by no means white. The coated blue ones of any other brand will generally give you less light output in my experience as all they are doing is masking the yellowness from the low kelvin temperature they have. The Osrams above at 20% over standard were my only choice I liked but I only had them in in summer.HiD route at the moment I think would be the only way to get what your after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beska133 Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Cheers for that man, i got a pair of philips xenon ultra blue ones today which are miles brighter than the philips ultra vision! Im going to do more research into the HID bulbs, but i red somewhere they are legal if you have them correctly aligned or something,But in the new bmws, they all have pure white lights, so how are they legal? they must be hids, I do alot of night driving so seeing where your going is obviously of huge importance! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggled Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Do you only drive at night in the dry? Pure white light is not as good in poor weather.The whiteness of the light doesn't equate to the quality of the light. The BMW ones will be HID with washers and self levelling kit from factory.Year on year the winners of the best bulbs in Autoexpress tests are Philips xtreme and Osram Nightbreaker.http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/products/258424/headlamp_bulbs_tested.htmlhttp://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/products/61032/bulb_test_h7_50.htmlhttp://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/products/243109/bulbs_we_test_30.htmlI've used the Nightbreakers and they are great in good weather, not so good in heavy rain, fog or snow though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeA Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Yeah I've had night breakers for a week, first time in heavy motorway spray, they were abit poo tbh. And you can't just take them out for your MOT, coppers (round my way anyway) are onto them aswell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunsprules Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) in relation to HID'si know for a MOT the bulbs cant be over 60k or 80k (not 100%)this is what an mot inspector said The rules for mot's say that for new cars they must be self levelling and have headlamp washers. Says nowt about retro fitting to an older car.I'm getting some anyway, my lights are kak, going to get 3000k so it's yellow Edited October 13, 2011 by shaunsprules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggled Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Says nowt about retro fitting to an older car.Hate to burst your bubble, but the new test rules specify retro fit must have self levellers and washers or fail:http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/technicalpenpicture3-lighting.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunsprules Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Hate to burst your bubble, but the new test rules specify retro fit must have self levellers and washers or fail:http://www.dft.gov.u...e3-lighting.pdf:'( i suck :Lsorry for miss sold info; wasnt from me hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggled Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 :'( i suck :Lsorry for miss sold info; wasnt from me hahahaJust trying to save you money and the ire of fellow drivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannonball Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Year on year the winners of the best bulbs in Autoexpress tests are Philips xtreme and Osram Nightbreaker.Do they do longevity tests, as in my experience both those bulbs blow very soon after fitting when used normally so are useless really :s So much so that Osram had to rush through the nightbreaker + to try and overcome the problem ! I have had 1 set of nightbreaker + exchanged by osram already ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidelliott294 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Get the 60k version and your car will pass it's MOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace_b Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I used to use Nightbreakers in my old company cars & they lasted quite well, over a year & I was doing 35k +, so plenty of night driving going on.If you want to loose the "yellow" look, change the side light bulbs too, so its a bit more matching.I have some PIAA in my gti to match the OEM hid's, pretty close matching for a side lighthttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIAA-PLATINUM-5w-SIDE-BULBS-VOLKSWAGEN-LUPO-GTI-1-4-16V-/310348182370?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4842317362 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggled Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I had Nightbreakers in my Transit which I sold after 18 months and the bulbs were still fine, got 2 years on the Nightbreakers in the Corolla. Deffo shorter than normal bulbs though. I've had 5 years out of standard 55w ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James827 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 HID's and Xenon's are a pain for any other road users IMO. one of my friends has Xenon style bulbs in his car and there pure white light and they are not at all blinding. i have trouble seeing light and dark things at once so often get dazzled by lights but his set (properly aligned) give me no issues when he is driving behind me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Get the 60k version and your car will pass it's MOT.No it wont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeA Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Because the sidelight and headlight are one unit on a standard lupo, if you get some white LED 501s it makes the yellow when looking at the car appear less, doesn't really affect beam colour from the drivers seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treblet Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Only if they are left in from next year , it takes all of 5 minutes to swap back to halogen bulbs for that one day a year. And there is no need to remove or hide the transformer as they can be there for off road use.I think you'll find that you need to fully remove the kit as is stated in the MOT rules.If they know you've been running a kit and swapped back they'll fail it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beska133 Posted October 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 my friend has 12k hids, and he p*sses me off as they blind me as i drive past, currently i've got some philips xenon look untra blue, there by far better than halfords untra brilliance, and better than the osram ones, but when he takes his car for an mot he just changes the blubs and leaves the balist boxes inAlso i have led sidelights, but they just make my headlights look yellow, but at night they match with the philips blubs now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidelliott294 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 No it wontAfaik, it does. I have a mate with them and his passed his MOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Afaik, it does. I have a mate with them and his passed his MOT.It will for now, the new regs dont take effect until January.In any case, the temperature of the lights wouldnt make a difference, unless the tester deemed they were actually blue lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidelliott294 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 It will for now, the new regs dont take effect until January.In any case, the temperature of the lights wouldnt make a difference, unless the tester deemed they were actually blue lightsThis January coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treblet Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 60 Kelvin will be somewhere in the infra red area of the light spectrum... I think you probably mean 6000 Kelvin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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