Adam Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 just a quick question, what is the difference between the 3L lupo and the normal lupos? have they different shaped wings like the gti's? and what engines do they have? im just curious as ive heard a bit of talk about them and wondered what they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Lupo Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 erm, they is diesel dude....and ally panels i think (like gti) and someone correct me if i'm wrong...but i think the tailgate is titanium? now that would be a trick mod for a gti!!i think they are called the 3L because they use 3 litres of dirtol for every 100km or something?(prepares for barrage of pain from oil drinkers and techno peeps!!! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGTI Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 have a look at these.......http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/pri...inter_319.shtmlhttp://www.stealthtdi.com/Lupo80Days.htmlhttp://www.usatoday.com/money/consumer/aut...ew/mauto497.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 They sound like cool cars and a titanium tailgate?? Hmmmmmmm style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":idea:" border="0" alt="idea.gif" /> are these the ones with cambridge lights on the rear and they come in a sort of greeny gunmetal type colour?and cheers for the pics dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 that is a very cool little car! and its got a DSG gearbox?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Lupo Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 news to me they have cambridge lights adam? also oi think you can/could get them in variety of colours?(refer to previous expected barrage!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 i just assumed they did (assumption is the mother of all feck ups add!) but on viewing them links they dont appear to have them on. they have a nice smooth grill though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Lupo Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 also matey news to me they have a dsg gearbox???? thought that hadn't filtered further than golf yet - certainly not in polo, and i'm positive not in loop!oh dear, i don't mean to rain on your parade mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 lol, im just reading what was in the vwvortex link that dan had posted above, i knew nothing about them 45 minutes ago! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Bladdy Hell, I never knew it had the DSG box either, but apparently it does....from the VWVortex article:"At the time we drove the Lupo [3L], we were aware that it had a strange new transmission, but what VW didn't tell us till now is that it is in fact the new direct shift gearbox (DSG) found in the R32 and Audi TT 3.2, albeit with very different programming and one less gear" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 hmmm... I wonder..EditDoh! Must not mod, must not mod, must build house... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 it does seem like an expensive box to put in a lupo, but it vw can be quite mental sometimes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 It's a magnesium tailgate - the DSG gearbox is in there purely for economy, so that it can make the acclaimed 3L to 100KM. In it's economy mode, the clutch automatically disengages whilst not accelerating, allowing the car to coast as this obviously saves fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabo Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 ...and engine turns off automatically when stationary ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvid Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Actually the bonnent, wings and tailgate are made from aluminium, like the GTI. Only the steeringwheel is made from magnesium. The engine is a super economical version of the TDI which turns off automatically if the car is stationary for more than 6 seconds i believe. The gearbox is not a version of the DSG. It's normal automatic. The DSG is to big and heavy for an environmentally made car like the 3L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Lupo Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 crikey! its all a bit mad that Loop 3L is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 I thought that the DSG only fitted onto a V6?Well 3 cylinders is half of a V6 I suppose, although its diesel.I really really like the look of a 3l I have to say especially those modded Scandinavian ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Nonono... I think you're mistaken...The GTI has a steel tailgate. Only the front is lightened - this compensates performance wise for the additional weight of the engine.The 3L Lupo (according to Elsa) has a magnesium tailgate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabo Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 acc to Vortex article it has skinned DSG with tiptronic functionalityand almost all parts which were possible to be made off alu were made of alu (like brake calipers)plus `eco-oriented` ECU programming and 155 tyres to top it off style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> (terrible handling mind you) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvid Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 I'm going to check with a few 3L owners with our dutch club. Don't think a factory will make a bodypart from magnesium, to expensive on a little car.But you never know maybe it's true style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> I'm thinking of maybe changing my front Rieger bumper for a 3L bumper, will take some work but it will bee 'clean' style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Hello. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> IM luke and i work 4 Volkswagen Racing UK and the proud owner of a lupo 1.4 sport. I know a bit about the 3L, IT WEIGHS ONLY 830KG! Which is 150kg less than an SDI. Thin glass windows, doors, wings and bonnet made of ally. tailgate is both ally and magnesium,Diffrent shape tail gate,rear bumper has intergrated diffusor, 10mm lower tha SDI, closed radiator grille, side skirts with special air deflectors.The engine is a 1.2 `3-cylinder` diesel with turbo and charge air cooler. gear box is an auto.Max power is 45bhp at 4000rpm and torque is 140nm at `1800-2400rpm`.hope that helped abit style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrat Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 hey there luke , dont spose you got any plate type LSD lying around ? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> to fit 6 speed lupo box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 No verry sorry :cry: . We dont race any lupos. I strugle 2 get bits 4 my motor! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 DSG gearbox in the 3L, surely a load of horse poo!I remember reading in autocar about it when it was launched over the channel and certainly remember it was an auto, but dsg, nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 The gearbox isnt a DSG unit. Its an electronic manual gearbox. Its derived from the manual gearbox 085, and gearshifts are performed automatically :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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