Clairey Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 My car dosn't go into 6th gear.Would any of you have any idea why?Maybe its got the 5speed gearbox on? Please help! ThankyouClairey...x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hmm... easiest way to tell what box is in it would be to check with RPM/Speed, preferably in 5th. At, say, 2000RPM in 5th, how fast are you going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clairey Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Will have to look at that!Hope its not a big job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcat Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I had first gear disappear on mine.. £850 later, back on the road with all synch rings replaced, new clutch and a year's warranty. I was told if only 6th gear it is easier to fix as you only have to open up the side of the g/box to get to it.. could be lies of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupoluke Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I dont know much about the gti box but chances are there all "alike". So if they are black cat is right, the selector might just need adjusting, if not it could be the syncro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99hjhm Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 My car dosn't go into 6th gear.Would any of you have any idea why?Maybe its got the 5speed gearbox on? Please help! ThankyouClairey...xWill it go into 6th before you start the engine?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clairey Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Will it go into 6th before you start the engine??No it doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Electricpandas did this, his gearbox was full of shrapnel when they took it apart. £££ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_M Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Do a gear oil change on it to check. Could be a simple gear selector adjustment...........do the other gear engage smoothly or are they notchy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I think we need to establish that the car actually has a 6 speed box in it.. can you do the test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_M Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) Its a 03 plate so should be 6 speed Edited January 26, 2010 by Mike_M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Has this suddenly happened? As if it has been like that since you bought it, shouldnt you have fixed that instead of buying fancy HT leads and a new exhaust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Its a 03 plate so should be 6 speedYep, I appreciate it should be a 6 speed, but this car was found in a scrapyard written off - there's not much information concerning its history. The simple ratio test would confirm that the box is original and is definitely worth doing imo. (on the understanding that it's never gone in to 6th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clairey Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Yep, I appreciate it should be a 6 speed, but this car was found in a scrapyard written off - there's not much information concerning its history. The simple ratio test would confirm that the box is original and is definitely worth doing imo. (on the understanding that it's never gone in to 6th)the car does aprox 45-50mph at 2k revs in 5th. my bf thinks that the 6 speed box went pop and because there hard to find they put in the 5 speed instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 5 Speed does around 55mph at 2,000rpm in 5th doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clairey Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Has this suddenly happened? As if it has been like that since you bought it, shouldnt you have fixed that instead of buying fancy HT leads and a new exhaust?Do i sence Jelousy? if you havent got nothing constuctive to say dont say nothing at all! who said money was a problem? the car runs perfect just a case of having a 5 speed box and 6 speed nob and a nob writing comments like this that dont help awnser the question im asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Do i sence Jelousy? if you havent got nothing constuctive to say dont say nothing at all! who said money was a problem? the car runs perfect just a case of having a 5 speed box and 6 speed nob and a nob writing comments like this that dont help awnser the question im asking His comment was constructive to be honest. You'd be in a better position now I'd you'd looked at things which were actually an issue on the car rather than replacing like for like parts that probably didn't need to be changed!I doubt he's jealous of your fifty quid leads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Do i sence Jelousy? if you havent got nothing constuctive to say dont say nothing at all! who said money was a problem? the car runs perfect just a case of having a 5 speed box and 6 speed nob and a nob writing comments like this that dont help awnser the question im asking No need for the name calling really is there?I dont have unlimited funds to run my car, and I would assume neither do you. If it is a 6 'box, and one gear has disappeared, it could potentially be a very costly rebuild on the cards (I just had my Sport 'box rebuild and it wasnt cheap!) and was merely suggesting a rethink of your priorities with the car may be in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennet Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 There's an awfull lot of work involved in fitting a five speed box into a six speed car. there's extra lugs on the back of the engine for example & the pendulum mount wouldn't line up. Chances are it's lost sixth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 There's an awfull lot of work involved in fitting a five speed box into a six speed car. there's extra lugs on the back of the engine for example & the pendulum mount wouldn't line up. Chances are it's lost sixth.Fitted a Six speed box on a 5 Speed car... Bell housing fitment was identical, The Lower torque arm was identical on both cars and attached to the gearbox. The differences were Cables and the shift lever in the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennet Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I never knew that, I'm currently working on a polo based project and the AVY in that doesn't have the holes on the back for a six speed box. So in theory, creating the six speed polo GTi, i can essentially just use any lupo block. (I know the whole hydro clutch/cable shift issues/subframe)That's good to know, cheers al. And yes, I'm a bird. Haven't you read my signature on here? It's a little obvious that only a bird would write that kinda thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99hjhm Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 And yes, I'm a bird. Haven't you read my signature on here? It's a little obvious that only a bird would write that kinda thing.Yes, but I could easilly write the same.@Clairey... Sounds like a 5 speed box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) I never knew that, I'm currently working on a polo based project and the AVY in that doesn't have the holes on the back for a six speed box. So in theory, creating the six speed polo GTi, i can essentially just use any lupo block. (I know the whole hydro clutch/cable shift issues/subframe)That's good to know, cheers al. The block on the Lupo's AVY was different to the block on the Polo's AVY. The Lupo's 5 and 6 speed boxes share the same bell housing. The 6 speed box is simply a five speed with a sixth gear added for a laugh rather than a proper six speed box.The Polo AVY's gearbox shares it's bell housing with the 1.4 16v engines (i.e. AUA, AUB, BBY etc.)P.S. You're into Jailbait? Edited January 26, 2010 by nfbr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Anyway... can anyone else confirm suspicions of a 5sp? Mine's tucked up in the garage with an empty tank atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Is yours a five or a six John?If it's a Six, Go and do 2000rpm in 5th and see what speed so we can determine this once and for all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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