kerrin martinez Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hi guys and girls i have a question 4 you, i have trouble gettin my car in to 2nd and 3rd gear and i wont go in to 1st atall. it is a gti 6speed on a 51 plate. could any 1 please help me?? thanks kerrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpo Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Probably your clutch rather than your gearbox, how many miles has it done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrin martinez Posted March 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 47 thousand, i can put it in2 reverse and 3rd 4th 5th and 6thjust sometinmes problems with 2nd and no chance of 1st atall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L119 UPO Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Your synchro is out i think, could be something else tho as said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 ive brought this up to peoples attention in the past, shitty gearboxes im afraid. get it checked out.also, using search should bring up some details! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L119 UPO Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I had issues when i first bought mine, but it was just because i wasnt used to the gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcat Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Kerrin,Very very sadly we are both in the same boat together...As of 2 days ago, I was toying with a Cooper S to my demise.... after I'd finished losing with him..my 1st gear would not go..I am now driving starting from 2nd gear and struggling but getting by..IT IS THE SYNCRO as said by L119... I had this confirmed by 4 garages and prices did vary and it's not cheap.. the last garage telling me to stay clear of any new VW's, A3's and particularly new golf's as all parts used are now cheaper quality and they are replacing boxes all-day long for these...you will need to get your gearbox re-conditioned.. I was given two choices, either 1st gear synchro replaced with no warranty or get ALL synchros replaced and gears checked over/repaired for 650 quid with a year's warranty..I decided to start from 2nd gear from now on Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 how rare is the vag 6 speed box? salvage should be around £300 for complete gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_M Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Not heard of a GTI box failing before so this is a suprise to me.Unsure what the GTI 6-speed is used on other than the Lupo due to its size, but 998 GTI's in the UK according to VWG and a fair portion of them are 5-speeds, so the 6-speed is a rare box in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerz Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Yeah Id say sync has gone, I had it go in my sport and felt like that, couldnt get into some gears and didnt like going into others. Its the sync Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Not heard of a GTI box failing before so this is a suprise to me.Well I have - I'm on my third To be fair though, the original didn't really need replacing, and the replacement never felt right (that inevitably broke). Third seems fine though.I have to say I had this problem with the second box - and eventually, with a bit of driving the lower gears came back. In fact the first time I was able to get back in to 1st, there was a loud bang and everything was peachy again.Like I say though, over the long term that box was no good - the one I have now is fine and hasn't ever done it.As for recons and repairs - that box is unique to only half of all Lupo GTIs as far as I know, so this is probably the best place to find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 You'll be very lucky to find a 6 speed box without having to buy an engine aswell.I think Luke waited nearly 2 years for one to come up on its own... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 very rare then. they cost over £1k new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Id buy one from the stealer, yes its expencive, but you do get two years parts and labour warranty with it.Although I must add, I would suggest bleeding your clutch before you start thinking about gearboxes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcat Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 A rebuild for the 6-speed box is the only choice.I've tried calling just about anywhere for prices... but every box shop suggests doing/exchanging the whole box as it will be best and covered by 1 year warranty only on a full recon..I'm based in london and a lot of the german car garages I contacted admitted that newer cars are getting worse on quality. One garage even said that vw are in 3rd place and the Japs are in the lead.I've only owned my '03 Lupo gti for 2months and I have this messed up gearbox! Also my first german car which I chose for the reliability reputation!Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 none of it could be vw's fault though. who knows what the other owners did to the box. needs to be owned from new to know whether a manufactuering weakness is to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrin martinez Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hi guys and girls, just to let u all no that i took my car to a gear box specialist and they have told me that it would b heaper for a new1 so i have on order the last 6 speed box in the uk at a harsh £1,264. thatnk for all the input thou. kerrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) take very good care of it!i would ask for a top special brand/sports gear oil as it would be a higher spec than standard vw oil. for £1,264 get only the best for your new box.choose from here for a great selection of oils. opie oilsregister on the vwaudi forum or any on the list named on the opie website and you get a good discount. i used them myself and they are very helpful.clupo lupo could get its own discount aswell if any admin wanted to email them. they sell engine oils, filters, plugs etc. Edited April 14, 2008 by Dark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrin martinez Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Ok thankyou very much i will do that i like the forum people much mre helpfuller than ur local vw dealer. kerrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 no problem , i would be tempted to get 3 bottles of this.motul 300i guess your having new clutch kit in there aswell when its changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrin martinez Posted April 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Yes iam having a new clutch kit and i will order that oil now, i priced up a helix clutch kit but it was £2600 because they dont sell many. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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