shorty-mini Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 ok just read this on the mini forum so though might be of use on here if it isn't already knownOk, apologies if this has been posted already, these rules aren't new, but they way there are now being enforced is."As from 9 June 2009 DVLA have implemented a new system for reporting Illegally displayed VRNS (vehicle registration numbers).Prior to that the Cop who pulled you over had a number of methods of disposal, ranging from doing nothing, through to Fixed Penalties and Defect Rectification Notices.There was also a very long and complicated system where if the cop took a picture of the VRN then posted it with a long form to the DVLA they would perhaps if the wind was blowing the right way on a wet Tuesday maybe write to the keeper and tell them off.NO LONGERThe DVLA have realised that most ops Traffic included won’t issue fixed penalties or spend hours filling in forms and have brought in the following system.On receipt of a now A4 size form and a copy of the photograph of the offending VRN the DVLA will now write to the registered keeper and give them 28 days to correct the defect AND then provide them (DVLA) photographic evidence of this. On the 29th day they will automatically DEREGISTER your vehicle, if you do provide such proof you will get a letter back saying thank you if it happens again we will deregister the vehicle without warning.Now having your vehicle deregistered is a real pain it means a day off to the local DVLA office to re register it, getting your tax, mot and insurance changed to your new allocated number because you won’t get your old one back (remember you don’t own your plate, just the rights to display it legally) if it cost thousands it’s a ###### they will just auction it off again.You can’t drive the car in this time mind you.Now the bit which will make it a success for them is the vehicle does not have to be stopped for this photo to be taken it can be a CCTV or ANPR camera still image.Attached is the link to the DVLA regulations for VRNshttp://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdfBe aware in this legislation if the owner is claiming an exemption i.e. pre 01092001 the onus is on the keeper to prove that the plate was manufactured before that not the other way round, this is because plates are considered consumable items and likely to frequent change." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treblet Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Where has the mini forum got this information?I won't be changing mine until this is verified... and probably until I get their snotty letter through! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty-mini Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 no ideabut thought it could be useful as i know some of you use some of the 'other' types of number platesthink of it as an early warning for those if you do ever get caught with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unheard Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 http://www.policespecials.com/forum/index....=95054&st=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 can someone confirm the punishment for running dodgy plates now?keep hearing rumours you can get 3 points for it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam bignell Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 can someone confirm the punishment for running dodgy plates now?keep hearing rumours you can get 3 points for it now.+1Im running my plates without a space . . . . Also I'd really like my plate back and not having to pay for it againL600OPYSam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) There are a few £30 on the spotters that are now up to £60, the misrepresentation of registration marks being the most publicised. I think points should be issued as misrepresentation is a deliberate act. However, I do not feel the use of standard EU fonts is a problem if the registration mark is correctly spaced. If the will is there, the authorities can trace a vehicle to an EU address and dish out the penalty, so claiming that a UK reg in a German font means the car is untraceable is a load of poppycock.The DVLA have always had the right to 'claim back' registration marks at the point of transfer or for persistent misuse.I know someone who has just had their license revoked for his tints. He kept getting pulled and now he has lost his license.That's a different thing altogether. He'll be driving a car that will have been unsafe to drive under C&U regs and done nothing about it. Edited July 8, 2009 by IDGM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 No points, just gone up to 60 squid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam bignell Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 No points, just gone up to 60 squidThanks, If this is true I don't mind forking out If I ever get caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarroll Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 I couldnt see anything on deregulation in the linkypoo? Anywhom, if they have released that just keep an eye on the source as someone will take that to court and will win as they cannot just deregister your vehicle without your consent. Personally i dont believe they ever would impose that but if they have they wont be able to use it as there will be solicitors lining up to have it revoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 No points, just gone up to 60 squidThanks, nice to get some clarification and I didn't fancy asking traffic plod at work.I couldnt see anything on deregulation in the linkypoo? Anywhom, if they have released that just keep an eye on the source as someone will take that to court and will win as they cannot just deregister your vehicle without your consent. Personally i dont believe they ever would impose that but if they have they wont be able to use it as there will be solicitors lining up to have it revoked.Remember your registration mark is not your property, it is owned by the DVLA ultimately, so legally they can do as they wish if you do not use it to their regulations. From reading Police forums the above is true and coming into force, so be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregg Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 as it stands its a 60 quid fine on spot but they are now takin pics of ur reg on ur car when they stop u and forwarding it on to dvla i no this as i got stop the other night for my plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 It used to be the case that any £60 FPN came with 3 points. Now some of the non-endorsable £30 FPNs have gone up to £60, this is why there's some misinformation floating around about points.This 'de-registration' only applies to private plates. Anyone who got a private plate in the past will have explicitly agreed not to misrepresent it, and the DVLA would give the old plate back when revoking the private plate. No Q plates are involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Hurrah, the correct answers.I still think mis-spaced plates should attract 3 points though. Yesterday I saw "OA51S RR" on a Phantom, the bloody cheapskate, although I suppose the driver would pull the race card had he been stopped.DVLA are missing a trick though, UK number plates can accommodate seven digits with a small space. In order to avoid misrepresentation, why don't they offer genuine vanity plates for a one off set up fee plus a yearly fee, payable at the same time as the RFL? The plates would be non-transferable, other than to a vehicle owned by the same registered keeper and combinations that were too close to another would not be issued. If the annual payment wasn't made, then the DVLA take the plate back for reissue to someone else at the same fixed fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Can someone give me the overall jist as I CBA reading all that lot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Can someone give me the overall jist as I CBA reading all that lot...The fine for misrepresentation/generally illegal plates has gone up to 60 squid. Thats about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 and the DVLA are actively snatching cherished numbers that are misrepresented back for resale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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