stevie_wonder Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Ok ok, ive been searching and ive found it, a roadtest of a GTi vs a VTS in an old copy of what car i have.Here are some specs:Saxo0-60: 7.630-50: 5.050-70: 5.2Top seed: 126Torque: 107Insurance Grp: 14Lupo0-60: 7.730-50: 5.050-70: 5.5Top seed: 116Torque: 112Insurance Grp: 11The Lupo gets the 'our choice', but the saxo was close by the look of things.top speed on a lupo GTi is 116mph???who told you that on the reviews it says 127mph and i know for a fact that they go higher up i'v seen a lupo sport do 116mph well iv got a crail day comin up next month and my friend has a saxo vts so i will challenge him on the quarter mile and put it stone dead once and for all that sound good??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-man85 Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 There's no doubt a 6-speed Lupo would have an advantage over the Saxo as the extra gear gives a much better use of the power keeping the engine in the power band, whereas I know the Saxo VTS's/Pug 106's have really tall 1st/2nd gearing to make sure they make that all important 0-60mph time lower to obviously impress those who judge a car by the paper stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Yeah, VW book time top speed in the Lupo is 127, and someone I know has seen slightly higher than that on a GPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver! Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Mr Parker, he say...LUPO1.6 GTi 3d 8.0 s 127 mph 123 bhp SAXO1.6i 16V VTS 3d (97) 7.5 s 127 mph 120 bhp1.6i 16V VTS 3d (99) 7.6 s 127 mph 120 bhp .5 of a second upto 60mph isn't exactly a thrashing, but it would pip.As already said, a lot will depend on the driver.Well done Stevie, are you both standard? Keep it on the track and let us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_wonder Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 both have similar mods so should be close but defintely keep it for the tracks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggaz Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Ive had a VTR and a 106 gti, 106 ended up with sensors all over, abs, window falls out, airbag lights, seats loose as feck, nasty interior too.Me mates had a VTS for about 3 year, couple of driveshafts, airbag lights, 3 abs sensors, dodgy immob, seat SNAPPED, and im not kidding but knocking and creaking ALL the time, forever chasing problems of knocks from the susp but never gets thrashed either. I know he's had loads more problems than that but thats off me head.That said there Fun, nippy, cheap to buy and usually cheap to fix. I loved the 106 gti handling and even the VTR but the 106 went asap cos i didnt trust it one bit.They are what they are, quick cheap fun cars, no quality to them apart from the handling.Try find a 51 plate GTI for the price of a VTS, not gonna happen.... Theres obviously a reason why people pay the money for a Lupo gti over saxo's. There not forced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC02 FFF Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 saxos are lighter so id say the vts, but still wudnt bee seen in one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggaz Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Yeh id say the VTS would JUST have it, id have one only for a bit play though then flog it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musto Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 top speed on a lupo GTi is 116mph???who told you that on the reviews it says 127mph and i know for a fact that they go higher up i'v seen a lupo sport do 116mph well iv got a crail day comin up next month and my friend has a saxo vts so i will challenge him on the quarter mile and put it stone dead once and for all that sound good???yh this cant b right my lupo s would do that easy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 top speed on a lupo GTi is 116mph???who told you that on the reviews it says 127mph and i know for a fact that they go higher up i'v seen a lupo sport do 116mph well iv got a crail day comin up next month and my friend has a saxo vts so i will challenge him on the quarter mile and put it stone dead once and for all that sound good???Just what it said in the What Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 The Saxo we had for the wife had a coil pack, gear cables and two sets of brake pads in 6 years. I changed the oil once.The gunk from the lack of oil changing was probably holding the engine together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petes 16V Sport Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Its time to be boring... one thing that everyone is forgetting is that Lupo is an ncap 4 star car and 106/saxo are 2 star cars. I know which one i'd rather be seen in. But in terms of performance i'm sure the saxo is probably slightly quicker. Its lighter with the same power so it would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 The gunk from the lack of oil changing was probably holding the engine together! LOL without a doubt! But if it works, why knock it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 iv neva been in a lupo gtibut i been in a Vts and they pretty quick but i would much prefer 2 be seen in a lupo any day much nicer x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 (edited) Its time to be boring... one thing that everyone is forgetting is that Lupo is an ncap 4 star car and 106/saxo are 2 star cars. I know which one i'd rather be seen in. But in terms of performance i'm sure the saxo is probably slightly quicker. Its lighter with the same power so it would be.That was a big deciding factor why ours got traded in really, light cars are good for handling, but i think id rather be in a heavy car which is made for safety and lack a little of the handling. Saxos are very dated now, where as the Lupo isnt as much, the Lupo GTi will be/are collectable, Saxos never will be. If i was buying a fun car, say to be taken to a track at weekends, then id get the citroen, but for living with day to day, would have to be the lupo. Just buy one of each, Saxos are worth very little now! Edited April 17, 2008 by cardaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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