emo_gazz Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Am I right in thinking that I can refuse to lift heavy objects at work until I receive a manual handling course.In the 2 years ive worked for the NHS ive yet to have had this course. And ive been to the physio 3 times about my back. Ive asked many times to do this course but still nothing.Ive also yet to have my fire lecture or any other course that I potentially need.That’s the NHS for ya style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Yes you can. I've done the Manual Handling Course and they point out you can still refuse to lift things without assistance/correct tools or if you feel it may be 'unwise' to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emo_gazz Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Ooo this week might be intresting then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelo77 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I was, at least in my last job, a health and safety manager/trainer. the maximum is 25 kg to lift. pm me of line and ill give you my number if you have any questions.RegardsAngelo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) Yep, When I was at comet we had the 'traffic light system'. Anything over 20kg ( style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> ) was a red light and you should lift with assistance. It never happened, but there you go.However if you feel you are causing yourself harm you are well within your rights to say no, and either ask for assistance, or for proper equipment to do so, such as a genie lift for getting heavy objects above your head Edited March 14, 2007 by Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 manual handling at work style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />In my day, manual handling was work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one litre wonder ;) Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />In my day, manual handling was work!when i ran a warehouse at the weekends i was lifting washing machines which average 70kg each when i was 16-18 years old style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scally Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 in my work an box over 16kg comes in with a heavy :2 man lift on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001gti Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 they should really give you a MH course if they dont and you get an injury you could take them for a nice sum of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luppie70 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Am I right in thinking that I can refuse to lift heavy objects at work until I receive a manual handling course.In the 2 years ive worked for the NHS ive yet to have had this course. And ive been to the physio 3 times about my back. Ive asked many times to do this course but still nothing.Ive also yet to have my fire lecture or any other course that I potentially need.That’s the NHS for ya style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />I started working for the NHS in June last year and by July I had had my manual handling and Fire prevention training. In our introduction manuals it does say that we can contact our manual handling department if we feel that we should not be lifting something. All we have to do is let them know what the object is and roughly how heavy and they will send the correct equipment for either us to move or a member of their team to move, so I would say yes to refusing to move something that is too heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 my job would be in possible if i said no to lifting over 25kg i work at a woood yard and have to lift 6meter peaces of 4"x4" red wood and they are bloody heavy best stuff we do is 6"x12" 6m i can only just hold it but we dont do them that much style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emo_gazz Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Luppie ive requested a MH course over 4 times now and the manager is doin feck all about it. Even the physiotherapist has contacted her to say i need the course.Think im gonna go the doctors and tell him bout ma back. Prob get light lifting duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picola Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Our manual handling training is a scratty poster on the wall, covered by poles.If you pull your back its yor own fault for lifting in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001gti Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Luppie ive requested a MH course over 4 times now and the manager is doin feck all about it. Even the physiotherapist has contacted her to say i need the course.Think im gonna go the doctors and tell him bout ma back. Prob get light lifting duties.balls to that, tell them you have done your back in and sue em that will teach him to listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreno510 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 In the 2 years ive worked for the NHS ive yet to have had this course.that's crazy, my girlfriend works for the NHS (in an office) and she's done it three times that i know of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Reckon the heaviest thing I have to lift at work is a bottle of wine. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I work on my own in the winter and have to life Railway sleepers and stuff on my own. Its never bothered me too much, but I know if I hurt myself lifting they would pay for my time off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luppie70 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Luppie ive requested a MH course over 4 times now and the manager is doin feck all about it. Even the physiotherapist has contacted her to say i need the course.Think im gonna go the doctors and tell him bout ma back. Prob get light lifting duties.Insist on a date you can have the training if not you will be forced to apply for another job or take it further. Can't you speak to Occupational Health about it if you have already injured your back and tell them your manager does not want to know when you ask about official training as you have to have it in the NHS by law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emo_gazz Posted March 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 ive done all this. im just gonna go to the doctors and get time off with ma back. then come back and take a course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMon Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 that's crazy, my girlfriend works for the NHS (in an office) and she's done it three times that i know ofSnap. I work in the IT section of a council and have done it once and rarely lift anything heavy (the occasional printer or server but that's it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr ColinG Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 No manual handling work should be carried out without first carrying out a risk assessment. Part of the control measures would probably be Manual Handling training to ensure anyone who carries out Manual Handling is trained in proper lifting techniques to minimise the risk of injury.Ask to see the Risk Assessment. Then if it mentions training you are quite within your rights to refuse to carry out any Manual Handling until trained, currently your employer is in breach of the Manual Handling Operations Regulations 1992.Regulation 4 requires employers to avoid manual handling operations which involve risk of employees being injured, as far as reasonably practicable and where manual handling cannot be avoided, to carry out risk assessments and introduce alternatives to manual handling, control measures and appropriate training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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