Langley Loop Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Hello all,finished fitting my new Phil J coilovers a couple of weeks ago and the back doesnt seem to drop that much at all. Maybe only somthing ridiculous like 40mm, the front will go flat to floorwithout any problems and loads more travell so i dont quite understand why. has anyone heard of this before?Also, there are lots of knocking sounds and clunkyness from the springs and they seem to ping alot. is this comon and can it be fixed?cheeers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggaz Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Is the clunking and pinging from the front, make sure when you dropped the car back down on its wheels that the spring is sat properley at the top.If you went pretty low on the front there may be some slack on the spring, if you just drop it back down when youve finished fitting them then it maybe sat incorrect against the top cup. Ive had that a few times with my old fk coilovers. Jack up and slowly let down making sure its sitting right.The rears on the philj coils dont go very low, fact. Take out the adjuster blocks so the spring sits in the same way as the standard springs did. Gets a little more out of them but not loads.I have the same ones on my arosa, was a little dissapointed, not sure if its only 40mm though, heres mine at the back on 16" alloys though.They have settled a tad lower like, thats with blocks out....still want another 15-20 mil though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Loop Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 yea exactly, im running 14's and even if i did take everything out, it wouldnt be sitting in the arches at all yea its at the front but also the back, i think i need to just do what you said and just try jacking it up and down again, slowlycheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggaz Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 get somepics up of the back and see if its extra high or just normal for philj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Loop Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 just one lying around, ill take a better one when i get home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggaz Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 does look a bit "too" high, get the blocks out and also make sure the rear springs are seated correctly and not on the edge of the block or summit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupo-steelies Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Same prob as mine bud, didnt get mine off PhilJ but they the same brand TA Technix. The front sits low but with the fronts right down you can see the back's higher.As already said try removing the adjuster blocks under the rear springs, gives u a bit more.Have you only just put them on cus they will settle a bit after a couple of weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Loop Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 no they have been on about 2 weeks, was hoping they would settle but they havent,ill rip out all the adjusters tomorrow and see if that makes a difference,cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Warren Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 there must be a way to get it lower.when i get my coilovers im gonna measure up the springs for the back then compare to other similar springs (corsa, newer clios etc) they might be the same but lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathhead Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 U can get the existing springs compressed, know a few people who got it done. Will get it done myself one of these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartagram Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Chop some coils out of the springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggaz Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Chop some coils out of the springs.Im so tempted, done it before on other cars but has it spoiled the ride much Kam? How many coils did you chop off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartagram Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Never ran chopped on the Lupo. Mick has chopped on his though, they only have about 4 coils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggaz Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 LOL i can believe it. I was trying to get a spare set to chop so had mine to put back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeAl Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 If you do remove the spring platform from the rear springs, Make sure you re-fit them when it comes to MOT Time otherwise it will be an instant fail due to the springs not seating propperly on the rear axle spring perch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanK Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Ive got some PhilJ coilovers ready to go on when i get my new wheels gonna go for 14's possibly 13's..., do the coilovers go low enough on the rear, don't want huge arch gap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Warren Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Chop some coils out of the springs.is this possible as the springs are like pigtails. narrower at each end than in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanK Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Anyone know if the PhilJ coilovers go low enough on the rear to pull off a set of 14's?Ive got 2 sets of wheels lined up, one set are 14's and the other are 13's, i really want the 13's but will only get them if i can go low enough on PhilJ coilovers which i have, just havent fitted them yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Chris260 has PhilJ's and 14's. I think he still has the adjusters in the back though, to give it some rake. Have a goosey at his Readers Ride thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanK Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Chris260 has PhilJ's and 14's. I think he still has the adjusters in the back though, to give it some rake. Have a goosey at his Readers Ride thread.Just had a look and its quite a nice height, would like it a bit lower at the back but im not sure if he has lowered the back fully?Anyone with PhilJ coilovers run 13's? If so how does it sit on the rear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggaz Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Going silly low on 13's will bring its own problems lol, it'll look cool all the way with philj's. Probs get stuck everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathhead Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I have phil j's and 13's. no pix tho at the minute. sorryDoesnt sit too bad, rear adjusters out, about an inch gap between tyre and arch, maybe a bit more actually. Will try and get some pix up in next day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris260 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I have the adjusters out but the blocks still in just so the spring doesn't fall out. Like thisSits like this You'd probably get it a bit lower at the back if you took the block out, i did it when i still had my FK's in and is sat like this at the back on standard wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStryder360 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 finally my car has a use!Check out my readers ride thread with meh Ats Classics on to see the arch gap.. And at that height I scrape when either just mildly bombing it round or over quite regular sized speed humps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Warren Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 i fitted the ta technix without adjusters and im tucking the stock wheel tyre combo by a few mm at the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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