Toi gulp Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldnt recomend it under any curcumstances judging by how weak the driveshafts seem to be (well the joints on the diff anyway). it seems obvious to me that the function has been built in to prevent shearing driveshaft bolts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldnt recomend it under any curcumstances judging by how weak the driveshafts seem to be (well the joints on the diff anyway). it seems obvious to me that the function has been built in to prevent shearing driveshaft bolts!!!Its there to stop dual input, ie brake and throttle. Left foot braking will put no extra load on the bolts than if you were goin up a slight hill or had a couple of mates in the car. All I will add is that if people dont know exactly how to left foot brake then dont even attempt it as the left leg isnt trained to be gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpolo Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 heel and toe works well on my gti :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 My throttle doesnt cut out when the brake pedal is pressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99hjhm Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) I think/thought it was only cars with DBW throttle.Are all GTI's not DBW?? Edited November 26, 2009 by 99hjhm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Yeah. If I press the brake pedal, and the accelerator, it revs up anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Yeah. If I press the brake pedal, and the accelerator, it revs up anyway!it will when stationary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I really don't see how left foot braking is any advantage when driving fast on normal roads. I don't know how to do it properly and don't want to attempt it because it can be dangerous without plenty of space to play about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) I remember watching a Forumla One race sometime last year and there was mention of which foot should be used for braking.Some F1 drivers use their right foot for both. E.g. Jenson Button, this is why they say he's smooth on the throttle and smooth on the brakes. Other F1 drivers use their left foot for braking.The results were of particular interest because the digital screens showed that the drivers who used their left foot to brake and their right to accelerate often ended up overheating their brakes quicker because they had the tendancy to brake and accelerate partially at the same time.So the answer to this question is entirely dependant on the type of car you are racing. F1 drivers can do it if they want to because their clutch is on the steering wheel.If anything on a car with a clutch pedal you should be using your right foot to accelerate and brake "heel and toe" style. Take a look on YouTube at the Japanese drivers who race in the Honda Integra Type R's. It's quite effective but as I say...it doesn't suit all Sports. For road use just your right foot is sufficient to apply the throttle and brakes independantly rather than heel and toe. Edited November 30, 2009 by Niche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) Just a quick note for all those who have mentioned 'Heel & Toe' Its a different technique to be used at different times to left foot braking, also left foot braking is used to achieve different things weather driving FWD or RWD or a turbo'd car.So dont confuse the 2 as being the same, cause there not.also what makes you think i only drive the car on the road, and practicing driving techniques in any situation is good practice for track days. Edited November 30, 2009 by foxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) If any of you saw my feet on the pedals you would be blown away by how fast and how many inputs each foot does, some at the same time as this balances or even unsettles the car, all dependant on what i need it to do. I use this for both road and track (as mentioned above) and having total control of any car at all times is a nice thing to have. Again all i say is if you havent done it before then dont go trying it, you WILL have a shunt. Edited November 30, 2009 by 1 Litre Screamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) also what makes you think i only drive the car on the road, and practicing driving techniques in any situation is good practice for track days.hardly good practice and i wouldn't recommend it as "1 Litre Screamer" pointed it out if you haven't done it before.practising driving techniques in any situation isn't something you should be suggesting to do on a forum regardless as to whether if it is good or not. Public roads are not test tracks.None the less that didn't stop me from trying it whilst doing 60mph down my private road. I think I almost went through the windscreen. Edited December 1, 2009 by Niche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcrook Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 I use left foot breaking all the time, have done for about 5 years now.It annoyed me quite abit in the Gti that you couldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) hardly good practice and i wouldn't recommend it as "1 Litre Screamer" pointed it out if you haven't done it before.practising driving techniques in any situation isn't something you should be suggesting to do on a forum regardless as to whether if it is good or not. Public roads are not test tracks.None the less that didn't stop me from trying it whilst doing 60mph down my private road. I think I almost went through the windscreen.You dont know, You dont understand, so dont comment.I had a query and i got my answer from someone who knows what there talking about, so i have nothing more to add. Edited December 1, 2009 by Nicki Toned down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 If this is just going to descend into (yet another) a tirade of insults, I'm going to close it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I only pointed out that it's not safe to practice racing techniques on public roads which we pay to drive on and in my case pay to park on. I haven't insulted anyone but if other people want to take something to heart for no reason I can think of then please do lock this thread.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcrook Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I only pointed out that it's not safe to practice racing techniques on public roads which we pay to drive on and in my case pay to park on. I haven't insulted anyone but if other people want to take something to heart for no reason I can think of then please do lock this thread.Thanks.Nobody here is talking about racing on public roads, we're talking about left foot breaking.Also do you think because you 'pay' to park on a public road that gives you more justification to whine about what other people do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 also what makes you think i only drive the car on the road, and practicing driving techniques in any situation is good practice for track days.Nobody here is talking about racing on public roads, we're talking about left foot breaking.I think that justifies itself.And what exactly do you intend on breaking with your left foot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I left foot brake in my van, is that dangerous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I left foor brake all the time on my horse, is this dangerous too??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 No one was talking about racing on public roads. Merely practicing certain techniques in normal driving conditions. There was no mention of driving dangerously on the public highways.If you suddenly decide to practice an emergency stop on the road with traffic behind you, that would be dangerous. Practicing an emergency stop in a driving lesson as a learner driver is necessary and under those conditions, is not dangerous.I think this thread has run its course - the only recent posts have been of an argumentative nature so I'm going to lock it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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