lupolouie Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 just got my lupo gti a few days ago being used to realy good hadling from my old one litre i excpeted the gti to be better.its lowered on kw coilovers its got matador tyres on the back and toyos up front! but in the wet the back end on must corners is trying to overtake me! im just wondering has any one else had this problem? im putting it down to cheap rear tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Your best/newest tyres should be on the rear. If its happening on most corners, slow down and stop lifting the accelerator mid-corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupolouie Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Your best/newest tyres should be on the rear. If its happening on most corners, slow down and stop lifting the accelerator mid-corner thing is i was only going a litle faster than i should be on a round about a away it goes lol i drove like a fanny after that then it was fine.but my old lupo would have gone alot harder with no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpo Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Cheap rear tyres Did you get the geometry sorted after you lowered it?Lupo's end up with a lot of camber at the front when lowered, and not allot at the back due to the rear beam. Can cause allot of over-steer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinos69 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 its got matador tyres on the back and toyos up front! [...] im putting it down to cheap rear tyres.i see you already know what's wrong with your car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupolouie Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Cheap rear tyres Did you get the geometry sorted after you lowered it?Lupo's end up with a lot of camber at the front when lowered, and not allot at the back due to the rear beam. Can cause allot of over-steer. i dont know if its been checked i bought it with the coilies on.think i may try two decent make tyres for the rear and see how i stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupolouie Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 i see you already know what's wrong with your car! haha yeh i just wanted to see what peoples views are or if they have had a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperWeight1 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Cheap tyres with poor wet weather performance and decent tyres up front is a recipe for disaster if you push on.As if lift off oversteer if you don't mean to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupolouie Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Just get some toyos on the back thats probley the best idea like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_225 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yeah get some good tyres on the back and you'll be fine. I had cheap tyres on my Clio 172 and the lift off oversteer in the wet was shocking. That wasn't even at high speeds either! Order some Toyos for the rear from BlackCircles and they shouldn't cost the earth. You'll notice a good improvement then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupoluke Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I would say tyres as well, try swapping them round an see what happens, also check your tyre pressures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) Its probably the rear tyres as most people have already said, try dropping the rear pressures to 26psi and the fronts to 30psi and see if that makes a difference. It should allow the rear tyres to bellow a little and get the sidewalls and carcass warmed up enough to provide a little more grip, or go buy some better tyres and fit those!Just a quick note while were on the subject, its not always the tyres, if the car has coilovers fitted then the rear end dancing around could be due to a few other things. 1, So low its hitting the bump stops on cornering and the sudden lack of travel can cause the body roll to turn into side loading.2, The setup is incorrect, ie, corner weights or ride height is vastly different from the opposite corner, or axle to axle ratio is incorrect. 3, Oh, The rear tyres are crap!There is alot more that could cause this but my fingers are now hurting and it gets nerdy and boring from here on in, so change the tyres!! Edited October 15, 2009 by 1 Litre Screamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet, but...it's the tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver! Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 ...i was only going a litle faster than i should be on a round about...Says it all really, drive to "your" and the cars ability, taking into account road and weather conditions and you'll be fine.Don't blame the tyres, milions of people drive on budget tyres every day of the year and have no problems.If you want to push it, get on a track, or go somewhere where you'll only kill yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm sure people mean that budget on the back, premium on the front is a bad combination, but yes - driving faster than you feel you should is also probably not a brilliant idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_225 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet, but...it's the tyres.Are you sure mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarroll Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Matador are awful, soft walls and bad compound. My folks refuse to sell them in their depot lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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