ritdaw Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Hi,I recently bought an Arosa 1.4SE, it has non standard alloys on it (OZ racing of some description) of which I believe are 16''.What size are the standard alloy wheels that come on some arosa's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Hi,I am not aware of a mk2 Arosa SE so yours must be a mk1 then, If it should of had alloys from the start they will be have been 14" rims and if they were steelies then they could be either 13" or 14" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritdaw Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) Hi,I am not aware of a mk2 Arosa SE so yours must be a mk1 then, If it should of had alloys from the start they will be have been 14" rims and if they were steelies then they could be either 13" or 14"Yep its an MK1, I think the dealer changed them to try and attract younger buyers....Do you know if a set can be picked up relatively cheaply? Edited February 9, 2006 by ritdaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Im not totally sure what style they would have been, but the mk1 sport came with the same wheels as my mk2 S so it may have been them, there was a set on ebay last week for just over £130.Quite a rare find an SE i think, does that have air con? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritdaw Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Im not totally sure what style they would have been, but the mk1 sport came with the same wheels as my mk2 S so it may have been them, there was a set on ebay last week for just over £130.Quite a rare find an SE i think, does that have air con?Nope, the I was abit dubious about it actually being an SE as it doesnt seem to have anything special other than electric windows, not to mention the lack of power steering. It did however come from a reputable SEAT garage.Hence why I'm asking, the steering is incredibly heavy with 16'' alloys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) Hmm thats news to me, i thought every arosa came with power steering or at lest the majority, and with it being an "SE" you would think it would be a highly speced one. Does it say on the log book that it is an SE? There is an SE on autotrader at the moment but that has everything power steering and air con but no alloy wheels only wheel trims, thats why i asked if it had air con. What year is the car? Edited February 9, 2006 by cardaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritdaw Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Hmm thats news to me, i thought every arosa came with power steering or at lest the majority, and with it being an "SE" you would think it would be a highly speced one. Does it say on the log book that it is an SE? There is an SE on autotrader at the moment but that has everything power steering and air con, thats why i asked it it had that. What year is the car?Yeh it does have it on the log book, I'm not too bothered as I didn't pay through the nose for the fact it was badged an SE.The power steering was news to me as well, I thought they all came with it (could have been taken out I suppose).Its 2000 W reg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) hmm seems a very late car not to have power steering if it was an earlier car then i could understand, could it be possible for it just not to be working, although then it would probably be very heavy so i guess not. Well if it says on the log book then it must be an SE, does it have anything else, such as leather steering wheel or sun roof, or just electric windows. Edited February 9, 2006 by cardaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritdaw Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Just the elec windows as far as I know.....Again I thought it was a bit nuts a car made in the Year 2000 didnt have power steering.The garage is geniune by my belief, so I don't feel swindled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Have you checked that it dont have a power steering pump, just incase its not working, as it seems very strange that it dont have power steering to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritdaw Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) What should I be looking for under the bonnet, I know there should be a resevoir with a green cap, which I can't see!Oh it does have a driver airbag by the way. Edited February 9, 2006 by ritdaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 If you can not see a resivoir for the power steering pump then it sounds like you dont have power steering, There should be two resivoirs one for the brakes and one for the steering, carnt remember which colour is which now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The subtle modder Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) When look for my car in my sig i test drove many cars one of which was a mk1 99 V reg silver arosa 1.4 SE (same style badge as used on the lupo's) and it DEFINATELY had power steering i parked it twice and it is instantly noticeable on these cars that it has it so im imagineing there is something wrong there with yours which needs investigating one way to tell is to look for the extra drive belt needed for the power steering pump? 16" oZ's? have you got any pics of the car with them on? if you cant host them pm me and ill host them for you, what width tyres etc are on them i ask as make of tyre and mainly width can also make steering unnecesarily heavy such as 215 tyres on the 17's i tryed on mine made mine considerably differentalso what is the name of this seat garage?wayne Edited February 10, 2006 by The subtle modder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritdaw Posted February 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) When look for my car in my sig i test drove many cars one of which was a mk1 99 V reg silver arosa 1.4 SE (same style badge as used on the lupo's) and it DEFINATELY had power steering i parked it twice and it is instantly noticeable on these cars that it has it so im imagineing there is something wrong there with yours which needs investigating one way to tell is to look for the extra drive belt needed for the power steering pump? 16" oZ's? have you got any pics of the car with them on? if you cant host them pm me and ill host them for you, what width tyres etc are on them i ask as make of tyre and mainly width can also make steering unnecesarily heavy such as 215 tyres on the 17's i tryed on mine made mine considerably differentalso what is the name of this seat garage?wayneI'm certainly sure it should have power steering, however the garage did tell me that it didn't before I bought it, so it wasn't as if they were trying to hide something.The garage is Carshop in Yeovil, Somerset. I have a 12month warranty on it as well, so if it does have broken power steering it wont be a problem getting it fixed.... border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="IPB Image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="IPB Image" />Sorry about the pic quality, its cold and frozen outside hence the poor pics! You should be able to see the tyre size in the pic. Oh and the wheels are filthy, not scratched, just I do 100 mile a day and there is a lot of salt on the roads at the moment! Edited February 10, 2006 by ritdaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) looks cold where you are lol, style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mellow:" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" /> It looks like you have the new stlye steering wheel aswel, seems very odd that you have elctric windows and no power steering style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> Maybe you do have it and its broken, how many turns from lock to lock does it have? often when cars dont have power steering they have more turns from lock to lock to make it a bit lighter.Does it have central locking?The tyres would make a difference to the steering also, even different make of tyres, like the Kumho's on the front of mine make the steering more weighty than the dunlops that were on. But it shouldnt be to the extent where it seems you dont have power steering, obviously if you do have it its not working. if you dont have power steering try putting a little more air in the tyres than normal as this will make it easier at parking speed, only not too much though maybe up to 5 psi over reccomended pressure.And keep your eye on ebay for some seat wheels, there is sometimes some arosa ones on. Edited February 10, 2006 by cardaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramirez Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) Hello and welcome to the club.All Arosas and lupos had PS as standard so Id guess your pumps gone.Regarding the "SE" bit, theres something amiss there as you dont even have CC'd mirrors. (could you take a pic of the inside?).Finally your running 15" alloys not 16" as your tyres say 195/50/R15 (R15 refers to the size of the alloy). Edited February 10, 2006 by Adam-B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) Hello and welcome to the club.All Arosas and lupos had PS as standard so Id guess your pumps gone.Regarding the "SE" bit, theres something amiss there as you dont even have CC'd mirrors. (could you take a pic of the inside?).Finally your running 15" alloys not 16" as your tyres say 195/50/R15 (R15 refers to the size of the alloy).Yeah i think all arosa's do have PAS aswell but gurl racer's last lupo didnt have power steering i dont think, but thats a lupo anyway.I have just been looking on autotrader and there is a black Arosa 1.4 MPi 'SE' it says its got electric windows and remote central locking but it does not mention PAS however it does have Colour keyed mirrors. There is also a yellow se with PAS so it would seem that you should have it its just not working. But every other arosa seems to have power steering Edited February 10, 2006 by cardaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoxy Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 All Arosas and lupos had PS as standardI don't think you're right there mate. I'm pretty sure I've seen some Lupo Es on eBay without PAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupoalex Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Power steering wasn't standard on the Lupo untill 2000 (at least on non-GTI's). One way to check if your power steering is working is to pull down on the steering wheel while the engine is turned off then switch on the engine and the wheel should jump if the PAS is working. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritdaw Posted February 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Power steering wasn't standard on the Lupo untill 2000 (at least on non-GTI's). One way to check if your power steering is working is to pull down on the steering wheel while the engine is turned off then switch on the engine and the wheel should jump if the PAS is working. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />Right, it does have remote central locking.I remember seeing a post a while back with a pic of the resevoir, and I don't recall seing that under my bonnet, there certainly isnt any other resevoirs to fill up other than brake fluid, washer fluid and water.Is it possible it could have been taken out because it wasn't working to save the owner some money?Oh and thanks for correcting me on the alloy size, I only roughly estimated.Any idea what model OZ wheels they are, and how much they might fetch if I was to sell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 your right cardaft my first t reg loop didnt have PS! well remembered!nice colour arosa btw style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />Jen x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramirez Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 your right cardaft my first t reg loop didnt have PS! well remembered!nice colour arosa btw style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />Jen xThat seems really odd, as even my sisters old R reg 1.0 Arosa E had PAS. Why would Arosas have PAS and not Lupos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritdaw Posted February 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Heres some more pics: border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="IPB Image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="IPB Image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="IPB Image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="IPB Image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="IPB Image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="IPB Image" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) Hmm that place is where the power steering resivouir has been, and it has definately been there otherwise it wouldnt even have the braket. It has been removed i would think, maybe because of a fault. If i was you i would look to find any arosa's (mk1's preferably so that everything is the same) being broken in a scrap yard or on the net and get a second hand one. Should be relitively easy to fit or cheap to do if you get someone else to fit it, It will also increase the resale value of the car when you come to sell as it being the only arosa without PAS then this might affect the sale. and it will aslo make it drive alot better obviously as it must be very heavy with a 1.4 engine in it. By the way nice looking mk 1 you have there, i like it, any more day time photo's of the exterior?Chris Edited February 10, 2006 by cardaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 erm just noticed, why does your car have lupo style (not sure about mk2's) headrests? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> and also yeah my mates and my engine bays dont have big holes there, must be the PAS! I can get a pic of the engine bay if you want? (i have a mk1 1.4 too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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