FlipFlops Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Hi guys I've just bought a Lupo Tdi off a mate and signed up to the forum and have been using the search bar for a few things. I've been looking for some info on fitting some Lupo Gti xenons to my Lupo Tdi. I've found a couple of threads on here but they are all pretty old and have limited info. I was just wondering if anyone has any up to date knowledge on the conversion?Can it be done, what would be needed, would i need a complete Lupo Gti front end?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Just the lights and the loom/plug attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlipFlops Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Just the lights and the loom/plug attachments.Ahh ok thanks, so its not a whole new front end, i thought maybe they were a different size. I will keep a lookout for the lights then.Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Obviously with the lights you need the ballast boxes and all that lark as well. Make sure they're fully complete when you buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadeemaashraf Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Unless you fit the headlight washers it will not pass its MOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Unless you fit the headlight washers it will not pass its MOT.Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 It will pass mot, technically it shouldn't but you'd be hard pushed to find a tester that anal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 It will pass mot, technically it shouldn't but you'd be hard pushed to find a tester that anal.The rules say MAY, not MUST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I thought that the GTI slam panel was needed as the headlights are bigger and don't fit. I'm sure if you looked through Mitch's build thread (if its still on here!) he mentioned that they aren't a straight swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver! Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 12yan also had them on his 1.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) Heartagram posted this Posted 08 November 2008 - 10:26 PM"Yeah the headlights are hard work and quite expensive. I've got a few bits cheap though so its kept the cost of mine down, which is cool. Gotta piss about with the wiring and stuff to. Plus they are different dimensions so have to modify bits to make them fit. Definitely not just a plug in and go job!"From this post:http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?/topic/30770-lupo-sport-blog-last-update-26112012/page-37 Edited August 11, 2015 by lupogtiboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 The rules say MAY, not MUST.Are you sure? Uk cars that didn't come with Xenons need washers and the self levelling working to be legal as they didn't come with. But if your car is a jdm that came without all that stuff but came with Xenons that's ok. But most people will still pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self- levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.According to the department of transport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Some of the newer VW's have xenons but no washers as the output of the bulb is lower than 35w. Its a very grey area, all really depends on how friendly your MOT tester is...I'm pretty sure Dblock is right though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self- levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.According to the department of transport.The last time I checked, the rules specifically say MAY come fitted with washers and head lamp levellers, but if they do come fitted they MUST work. If they don't, it was at the discretion of the MOT tester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlipFlops Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I was always under the impression that you needed some form of headlight washer and also the levelling function to make them fully legal.I'm very interested in getting the Gti xenon's fitted though. If its a straight swap like some of you are saying then that is a real bonus but if there's a little work required i don't mind doing that either. Although the car's already been lowered with a set of wheels i'm going to treat this as a little project and do some more changes. I'm just amazed on how sweet the MPG is, if i can get 50mpg on a run i will be over the moon I pick the car up Friday so will start a build thread next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 You will be fine. Just set them up so they aren't dazzling anyone and you wont have any trouble.Plus 50mpg? Pff I was getting 56mpg and thats not sticking around on country roads either lol. You need to do the mods to the tdi to get the mpgs high. My brothers will do 60mpg+ Most I had was 65mpg at 70mph constant pretty much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlipFlops Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 You will be fine. Just set them up so they aren't dazzling anyone and you wont have any trouble.Plus 50mpg? Pff I was getting 56mpg and thats not sticking around on country roads either lol. You need to do the mods to the tdi to get the mpgs high. My brothers will do 60mpg+ Most I had was 65mpg at 70mph constant pretty much. Those figures are brilliant! 70mph is a nice cruising speed so to get 65 mpg would be so good! When you say mods to the tdi to get the best mpg, what mods are you talking about?I'm on the lookout for the gti lights, none about at the moment, i think this might take a while lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 You will be fine. Just set them up so they aren't dazzling anyone and you wont have any trouble.Plus 50mpg? Pff I was getting 56mpg and thats not sticking around on country roads either lol. You need to do the mods to the tdi to get the mpgs high. My brothers will do 60mpg+ Most I had was 65mpg at 70mph constant pretty much. Those are very good figures. I'm currently getting 69MPG every week consistently in my SDI, but I'm not hypermiling as ****tish as I used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Those are very good figures. I'm currently getting 69MPG every week consistently in my SDI, but I'm not hypermiling as ****tish as I used to.69mpg is great. The 5th gear mod and cruise control help my mpg a lot. I know Cc doesn't help you save fuel but it does for me so I don't go over a certain speed or below for that matter. The 5th gear mod is great for fuel. The best for fuel actually. Plus on country roads it's all about being smooth so you don't lose your speed too much. Edited August 12, 2015 by Dblock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 69mpg is great. The 5th gear mod and cruise control help my mpg a lot. I know Cc doesn't help you save fuel but it does for me so I don't go over a certain speed or below for that matter.The 5th gear mod is great for fuel. The best for fuel actually. Plus on country roads it's all about being smooth so you don't lose your speed too much.The only thing I wish I could get on my SDI is CC. I would fit it in a heartbeat. However I've tried to activate it software side via VAGCOM. Seems a no-go. No point in wiring it in to find out the software isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlipFlops Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I've bought it purely as a cheap mile muncher. I'm going to do the 5th gear mod and fit cruise, these would really help me. I live in Cornwall and drive back to Watford every 2 weeks, the round trip is over 550 miles so multiply that by 2 each month. I sit on the M4, M5 and M25. I've worked it out that it should cost me about £80 to do the 1100 miles in the Lupo compared to the £350 odd i usually spend.If a i can do a few little upgraded to make the driving a little easier i'm well up for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlipFlops Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 The only thing I wish I could get on my SDI is CC. I would fit it in a heartbeat. However I've tried to activate it software side via VAGCOM. Seems a no-go. No point in wiring it in to find out the software isn't there.Cruise is pretty handy if your on a long drive, it just takes all the effort out of your right foot. I have to stop sometimes and get out the car just to move my foot when on a long drive. Its lovely having cruise fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Cruise is pretty handy if your on a long drive, it just takes all the effort out of your right foot. I have to stop sometimes and get out the car just to move my foot when on a long drive. Its lovely having cruise fitted.I've never had it and I really thought after seeing people fit it to their 1.9 SDI Polo, that it'd be (from a software perspective) possible on the SDI 1.7. Nope, the ECU doesn't support it. I did speak to a company about having one of these aftermarket cruise control systems fitted but they wanted way too much and needed the car for about 3 days. Sack that **** off.As far as a mod on the TDI goes? It's a bargain. You don't need the stalk for one, you could easily fit it to a couple of button switches on your dash. On a bad day, it'd take you a couple of hours to fit and would make a huge difference to the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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