cafcross Posted November 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Just seen in Redline's Dub special a month or so back there was a track-prepped GTi on Schrick cams and Jenvey throttle boddies and that was running 141bhp. Whether or not that had anything else done to it I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) schrick cams and jenvey throttle bodies and he was only getting 141bhp? WTF!Surely that can't be right. Don't you mean 181bhp Either that or he hasn't had it remapped yet to compensate for the extra fueling and the different cam ratio's Edited November 20, 2008 by Niche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcrook Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 my standard nothing done to it lupo made 134bhp at awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 my standard nothing done to it lupo made 134bhp at awesomeThat's because they are Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafcross Posted November 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 It reads, and I quote:" This ex VW Cup Lupo GTI is a bit of a track weapon. For £5,500, with a 1.6ltr 16V running Jenvey throttle bodies, Schrick cams and lots of head work to produce 141bhp." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 It reads, and I quote:" This ex VW Cup Lupo GTI is a bit of a track weapon. For £5,500, with a 1.6ltr 16V running Jenvey throttle bodies, Schrick cams and lots of head work to produce 141bhp."Then they made an error. It doesn't seem worth it to have a Jenvey throttle body conversion and a set of schrick cams only to get an extra 7bhp from a stock GTI with a remap.They probably hit the number 4 on the keypad instead of the number 7...fat fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafcross Posted November 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Haha. I hope they did!I'm hoping for 150bhp with BMC, cat back system, manifold, cams and a remap. Possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Haha. I hope they did!I'm hoping for 150bhp with BMC, cat back system, manifold, cams and a remap. Possible?142-145 i would sayknow of some one who had bmc, exhaust remapped to 142 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 142-145 i would sayknow of some one who had bmc, exhaust remapped to 142yeh but he said cams...the maximum output in kw will ultimately depend upon which cams he puts in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Payna got 141bhp at Awesome with a BMC, Raceland manifold and custom cat-back. No remap.I'd hope that Foxy would get over 150bhp with his full custom exhaust, sports cat, BMC and remap.Lincolnshire Lupo GTI got 167bhp with Jenvey Throttle bodies, so I would have thought the cup cars would be making more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shteee Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I could swear mine is 139bhp. It was remapped before i got it, will look for the dyno read outs, ive got them somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Then they made an error. It doesn't seem worth it to have a Jenvey throttle body conversion and a set of schrick cams only to get an extra 7bhp from a stock GTI with a remap.They probably hit the number 4 on the keypad instead of the number 7...fat fingers.Not neccesarily. In motorsport, They go off wheelpower... not clutch power like people in the fast road tuning industry.I could swear mine is 139bhp. It was remapped before i got it, will look for the dyno read outs, ive got them somewhereIf yours isn't a GTI, then whichever rolling road it was on, was very optimistic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shteee Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Its had a GTi engine conversion into a 1.4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Not neccesarily. In motorsport, They go off wheelpower... not clutch power like people in the fast road tuning industry.oh yh, forgot about wheel power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timboukvw Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 What are they charging for a remap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 What are they charging for a remap?around £200 but up to £250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 £200 for a pre-map to be loaded on.£400 for a custom code map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeAl Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 What are they charging for a remap?Our Current prices are as follows:Lupo 1.0 - 1.4 - £199 + VATLupo GTI 1.6 16v - £250 + VATThese are full custom remaps tailored to the modifications on your car.Most stand alone management systems can be mapped From £499 +VAT upwards depending on how much is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 What are the differences between the ECUs on the 1.4 to the 1.6?Why the difference in price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I've read the thread with my mouth gaping wider nad wider as the pages go on. The stock GTI is 125fw bhp or so and I'm assuming after the cost of a BMC, cat back system, 4-2-1 manifold and a remap, 140-150fw bhp is fairly reasonably achievable.That's a hell of a lot of money to be spending to get 15bhp. It demonstrates the effectiveness of the stock set up beautifully and reassures me that TDI is the Daddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 TDI is the Daddy.Yes, you spend as much buying the car as you would buying a GTI.Spend £400 on a remap, to get the power no where near a stock GTI.N/A Tuing is always more expencive.VW Map the car to be ok on emissions tests.Al's guys will map it to run as smooth as possible.Raising peak power is not as important to us Petrol N/A enthusiasts as it seems to be to the Oil chugger lovers out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Raising peak power is not as important to us Petrol N/A enthusiasts as it seems to be to the Oil chugger lovers out there It can't be about the torque either I know the map will be well worth it in terms of power delivery, I drove a Superchipped Mini One once and it was so much smoother than our Cooper at the time with much the same power. It's because I'm a tight arse that I refuse to accept it's financially viable on a £/hp basis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeAl Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 What are the differences between the ECUs on the 1.4 to the 1.6?Why the difference in price?There is more involved mapping a GTI. Takes a bit longer to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 There is more involved mapping a GTI. Takes a bit longer to do.How so? (not being pushy, just interested! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeAl Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 How so? (not being pushy, just interested! )As far as I'm aware its simply a case of there being more parameters that need to be worked on to get everything running to spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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