Skezza Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 So... out of curiosity, who's had a go at this? My Double Din unit offers rear-view on reverse and considering the price of parts (£25 tops) is so cheap, I'm really considering just doing it for the sake of doing it, but as with all these jobs, they usually go tits up and I'll end up with a ****ed up part on my Lupo lol! By the way, I'm not considering this because I can't park lol, I just fancy a bit of curious tinkering If I was going to try any camera, I'd use one of the CCD number plate cams. I'm going to measure my number plate light unit tomorrow, see the correct dimensions as they all slightly differ on the bay. However, I reckon the one for the Golf MK4 would probably fit.From what I've read, there is two ways of connecting it:1. Feeding a 5m cable down the side of the car (I assume where the speaker wires go?) and then wiring up to the back of the head unit.or2. Using a wireless system.I can see problems with both. Feeding the cables through various pieces of trim that I'm not used to sounds a right ballache and getting them off is hard enough, but a wireless system doesn't sound brill either. I imagine there's a **** tonne of interference, also I assume that there is no trigger for when your car is in reverse as it will always be on. On a wired system, you use a 12v feed from the light. You'd have to hook it up to a switch or something I guess. Using something like a SPST switch for this would be a piece of piss though.As far as I can tell, the hardest part of this would be getting the reversing camera unit into the number plate light holder. Someone said on another thread, you'd have to take the entire bumper off as there is no access from the back. If that's the case. I'll respectfully pass. If not, I'll have a crack at this just for fun, then do a write up if I do it successfully. I don't mind removing the trim as such, although I'm not sure how to get the wiring up to the back of the head unit, although I suppose I can just follow the speaker wires right?Thoughts anyone? (none telling me that I've got too much time please ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricracer Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 i did have a look into this for a customer ages ago, seem to remember the camerera from a scirocco was really neat (may be wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al3xTee Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) I have considered this because my HU also offers this. I haven't looked into fitting fully but With regards to taking the rear bumper off, it's a piece of cake. And feeding wire through your boot and down through the trim past the driver's seat then up behind the dash to meet the headunit is also a piece of cake. This is definitely something I will consider further, when I can be bothered http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251035963563?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 just the ticket? Edited March 23, 2013 by Arosa.Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Al, theres two, theres one with two screws at the side, and there's this one with clips. I think the one with clips would be more correct for the Lupo as the number plate light compartment DOES have screws, but it seems to be held in with clips.Al, how do you get the wiring from the bumper through the back into the car? Do you have to drill a hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al3xTee Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 There should be no need to drill holes, you should be able to feed it through the hole the loom uses now. I reckon the one with clips is a good shout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 There should be no need to drill holes, you should be able to feed it through the hole the loom uses now. I reckon the one with clips is a good shoutOK, so Ill definitely have to take the bumper off for that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver! Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Can you not mount the camera low in the front bumper, so you can have a computer driving sim view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Can you not mount the camera low in the front bumper, so you can have a computer driving sim view?Confused, what do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver! Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 In GT5 and GTA4 you can change the view of the "camera" to show a low down view, whci I assume would be in the area of the lower bumper.You could put your camera in the same place to get a car sim view.A bit like this... Youtube Video ->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIIQkw2KBtU">Original Video">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 To be honest, my head unit support both. It has a reversing camera function, which is triggered when the car is in reverse, but it also has an Aux in, which I could easily use for something like that ^Only problem is mounting it and getting the wire into the back of the head unit from the front of the car?I'm definitely going fit the reversing camera I reckon, just for a bit of fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al3xTee Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Come to Blackpool, I will sort it for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Come to Blackpool, I will sort it for you I need to buy the camera first Once I've bought the camera, made sure it fits in the slot, I'll send you a message Could be an interesting How To Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north wales loop Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 a mate of mine had a camera in the rear wiper hole worked a treat and was stealthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) a mate of mine had a camera in the rear wiper hole worked a treat and was stealthyDoes that mean he had no rear windscreen wiper? I'm not really looking to remove my rear wiper.I've had a good look through eBay at various different cameras, I'm down to these two. I prefer the second one because if you look, the light is built-in to the camera case and doesn't require wiring in,at least that's what it looks like. However, it's not made specifically for the Lupo, it's made for a Polo, Passat and Golf MK6, which means it might not fit.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SONY-CCD-CAR-CAMERA-FOR-VW-PHAETON-SCIROCCO-GOLF-4-5-6-MK4-MK5-EOS-LUPO-BEETLE-/251031874520?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3a72aa6bd8 - Guaranteed to fit in the Lupo, at least it seems that way. Number plate light will need wiring in.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SONY-CCD-Rear-View-CAMERA-for-VW-Volkswagen-Polo-V-6R-Golf-6-VI-Passat-CC-/251035963735?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3a72e8d157 - Not guaranteed to fit. Number plate light won't need wiring in it seems. In truth, I think the first is a safer bet, but I'm tempted to try the second one. It's only 13 quid or so... Edited March 25, 2013 by Skezza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?/topic/85296-numberplate-leds-before-and-after/I'm wrong. The second one won't work because it's a plug in system. So really, the first one is the one to go for.I wonder if with a bit of modification, we could make it work with the OEM plug + socket, rather than cutting the original wiring, just in case we needed to replace the original OEM one (get it through MOT or something)http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Number-plate-light-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-IV-LUPO-OE-1J6943021B-/330889572261?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d0a8e2fa5This an an original OEM one, however...this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-License-Number-Plate-LED-Light-Fit-GOLF-4-5-6-LUPO-PASSAT-CC-POLO-/261181026904?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3ccf9a3258Comes with a cable adapter, by taking one of those, and a couple of Bullet clips, that would be a really smooth solution to this issue. Does anyone know where I can buy those cables? I don't like the idea of scotchclipping them although the alternative would be to simply add a few bullet clips in there, just a bit of an awkward job under the bumper like that lol. Edited March 25, 2013 by Skezza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al3xTee Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Does anyone know where I can buy those cables? I don't like the idea of scotchclipping them although the alternative would be to simply add a few bullet clips in there, just a bit of an awkward job under the bumper like that lol.Probably easiest to just bullet clip them, easy to change around then in the future. It would be interesting to see this working Edited March 25, 2013 by Arosa.Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Probably easiest to just bullet clip them, easy to change around then in the future. It would be interesting to see this working Yeah, so cut the plug off roughly leaving an inch of cable on the light units end, bullet clip both ends, then I could simply swap them if I ever needed too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTdi Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Wouldn't it be easier to paper active parking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Wouldn't it be easier to paper active parking?That fancy thing Ford offers? I think that's a little harder than wiring a reversing camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince172 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 do you need one lol!, you can almost touch the back window when your sat in the drivers seat! nice little touch mind, but only if its well hidden i'd say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 do you need one lol!, you can almost touch the back window when your sat in the drivers seat! nice little touch mind, but only if its well hidden i'd sayNo, of course I don't need one. I park my Lupo every day in some pretty tight spaces, up some rather awkward roads. That's not the point. It's just a little bit of fun A project if you will. Also a bit of a learning mechanism. It's knowledge that would probably carry to the next car I own, which will probably be another VW Nobody needs remote central locking, yet look how many people have fitted it? (And in my case intend to fit it once I get round to it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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