L4RRY Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I'm sure there's a thread about this somewhere already, but just wondering what, if anything you guys have done in the way of weight loss?I'm about to install my sub, amp etc which'll obviously add a bit of unwanted stress. I've thought about taking out rear seats, replacing grills with mesh.. (all obvious things)Any of you thought of/done anything different?Would be good to know..Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 You could remove the rear seats, it will also give you more room for a bigger sub.Weight reduction is critical in these Lupo's however you don't want to unbalance the car as it is a well balanced car. So whatever weight you shift from the rear should be shifted from the front too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttttada Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 You could remove the rear seats, it will also give you more room for a bigger sub.Weight reduction is critical in these Lupo's however you don't want to unbalance the car as it is a well balanced car. So whatever weight you shift from the rear should be shifted from the front too.There are tons of things you could do.It depends on how far you want to take it.Step 1:Lightweight wheels (unsprung weight which is huge)Aftermarket exhaustSmall Dry-cell batteryEngine Cover DeleteRear Seat DeleteStock tools/foam DeleteStep 2:Full-bucket seatsSwapping out stock steering wheelCF hoodLightweight flywheelThis is where you start to sacrifice comfortStep 3:Changing rear windows to plexi-glassRemove A/C (including compressor and condensor) and radioRemove carpeting and sound-deadeningRemove airbagsRemove power window motorsRemove all interior panels (visors too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartagram Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 If you trying to save weight don't but a sub and amp in it :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L4RRY Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 If you trying to save weight don't but a sub and amp in it :SI want the sub.. i'm building it into the spare wheel compartment so no box.. I also have a lightweight amp. Just trying to get the right balance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vworks41 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 If you've done away with the spare wheel, then the the sub and amp should be about the same in weight, so should make any difference to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 There are tons of things you could do.It depends on how far you want to take it.Step 1:Lightweight wheels (unsprung weight which is huge)Aftermarket exhaustSmall Dry-cell batteryEngine Cover DeleteRear Seat DeleteStock tools/foam DeleteStep 2:Full-bucket seatsSwapping out stock steering wheelCF hoodLightweight flywheelThis is where you start to sacrifice comfortStep 3:Changing rear windows to plexi-glassRemove A/C (including compressor and condensor) and radioRemove carpeting and sound-deadeningRemove airbagsRemove power window motorsRemove all interior panels (visors too)Yup. I found the pancake air filter system on my Polo mk2 weighed quite a bit, a bolt on k&n air filter sorted that issue.My rear cluster lights weighed a bit so I replaced them with some tinted crystal ones.It's unbelieveable how much you can do to reduce the weight of any car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little rich Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 am i right in thinking GTI doors are made of aluminium and therefore a lot lighter?Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vworks41 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 am i right in thinking GTI doors are made of aluminium and therefore a lot lighter?Rich,Yep doors, bonnet ect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartagram Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think you can only really appreciate GTI doors after picking up stock ones and GTI ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_Kez Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think you can only really appreciate GTI doors after picking up stock ones and GTI ones.agree there, as soon as you pop a steel(?if im correct) door off the hinge its amazing how heavy it isweight saving is alot to think about if you want a fast car,power to weight ratio is everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartagram Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yeah normal Lupo doors are unbelievably heavy. First time I went to pick one up I nearly broke myself Anyone know the actual weight difference in the GTI doors and bonnet compared to the stock bits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Slim Fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportline Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 sell your cost and wear a t-shirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Weight-Watchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Using bathroom scales I made a Eurocarparts steel bonnet to be 11kg and a GTI one 6kg. Every carbon bonnet I've seen for sale has been heavier than a GTI bonnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_Kez Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Using bathroom scales I made a Eurocarparts steel bonnet to be 11kg and a GTI one 6kg. Every carbon bonnet I've seen for sale has been heavier than a GTI bonnet.i can believe that, theres different "levels" of carbon as such1: carbon fibre & fibreglass2: carbon fibre & kevlar3: fully carbon fibredon't know of any othersbut a fully carbon bonnet ie. (3) should weigh about 3-4kg (about £200 dearer than the one below would be, and they aren't cheap)a carbon fibre & fibre glass ie. (1) should weight around 6kg (cheaper) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think some of the Lupo carbon bonnets were a carbon skin over a steel frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpo Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think a-lot about owning a car, is how fast it feels not how fast it actually is. Certain things like induction kits and taking the rear seats out make very little difference to performance but the increased noise and such makes it feel a-lot faster than it is. Kind of like a 1L on coilies it makes the most of what power its got and the driving experience is still fun.Its not all about spending a-lot of money on real weight loss unless its for track/ competition use, as fun can be had a-lot cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I think a-lot about owning a car, is how fast it feels not how fast it actually is. Certain things like induction kits and taking the rear seats out make very little difference to performance but the increased noise and such makes it feel a-lot faster than it is. Kind of like a 1L on coilies it makes the most of what power its got and the driving experience is still fun.Its not all about spending a-lot of money on real weight loss unless its for track/ competition use, as fun can be had a-lot cheaper.If you're talking about induction kits on a car with throttle bodies then there is hardly any difference.If you're talking about carbs then there is all the difference in the world. My Polo mk2 was 55bhp standard, 63bhp with a weber 32/34 twin choke carb, 67bhp with a k&n bolt-on filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 If you're talking about induction kits on a car with throttle bodies then there is hardly any difference.If you're talking about carbs then there is all the difference in the world. My Polo mk2 was 55bhp standard, 63bhp with a weber 32/34 twin choke carb, 67bhp with a k&n bolt-on filter.what that dont make sence to me just sounds like you wanna tell us you owned a polo mk2 at every post a std car with an air filter will be louder and to the driver it sounds faster get rid of seats again the zorst and road noise are louder thus making it sound a tad faster but to the lad who posted this thread dont worry about weight loss or any of the above as you will have your tunes on so dont matter if you want real weight loss cut out every bracket you dont use and dump half the wiring loom as that is a bloody mess and weights a ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) 63bhp acheived with the pancake filter67bhp acheived with a k&n bolt-on filterSounds faster or is faster?And who cares about sound on a modern car with a throttle body. Carburettors sound mean. Edited November 26, 2008 by Niche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpo Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Noddy knows. Im talking about driving experience not power. It doesn't matter how fast something is if you have fun driving it, and things like more noise can increase than experience.I bet the 1.2 chipped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 But the 1.2 has 3 cylinders!! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_joey_ Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) hearing the road noise and the engine noise can get a little tiresome ofter a while lol , iv got a 106 1.4 8v atm and i had everything out at one point ( there was just 1 seat and the dashboard lol) it did make a considerable differance to the aceleration of the car and the handeling but it was bluddy loud incide lol Edited December 5, 2008 by _joey_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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