chris_lupogti Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) i need your halp guys!had a couple of 1/4mile races with this guy in his polo gti on the weekend and i struggled to keep up with him. he says his engine is totally standard but i find it hard to believe!so i need help and advice to gain morre bhp and torque!already have an induction kit but need more!if you guys can recommend some tuning hints and tips and and how to go about these it would be so much appreciated.thanks guyschris Edited September 25, 2006 by chris_lupogti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyeBaz Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 99 Ron Tesco fuel is awesome.Dont tell him though when you leave him for dead style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 have you checked his engine bay?if he hasnt got induction kit and you have then maybe you should try a run with your standard airbox on. you never know it might be losing you somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lupogti Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 dont think it is standard but he wont open the bonnet to let me look!what do u guys reccommend?dont mind spending aslong as it aint over the top! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 best way is to get schrick cams imo.also type his reg into the dvla database just to check it hasnt had a bigger engine put in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigzâ„¢ Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Learn to drive.The Lupo GTI should kick the much heavier Polo GTI's ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lupogti Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 where can i get these from?does anything else need to be changed?what difference will it make?sorry bout all the questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigzâ„¢ Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 best way is to get schrick cams imo. Is this from experiance?They wont give hardly any benifit without some serious headwork.Even then, I cant see you gaining much from the results other uses have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 not from experience, but from expeience from cams into cars in general for na tuning. would expect about 10bhp or so, or is this too high a guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish_Sport_16V Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 not from experience, but from expeience from cams into cars in general for na tuning. would expect about 10bhp or so, or is this too high a guess?99% sure thats been provren incorect on RR sessions with a few guys from here having cams and the gain was no where near that.My sport will give a polo gti a good run for its money so you should be able to beat it no hassel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) those guys who had the cams did they have a full engine ecu remap to setup the cams power? Edited September 25, 2006 by beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish_Sport_16V Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 off the top of my head my answer to that is no they never but the guy did say he was willing to sped but not to much now if your talking cams,headwork,standalone ecu and mapping your already at over 1k+ and even then woukldnt see a huge inscrease in power.Any majorty of people dont go for a full map just for cams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Ross had had his head worked, cams full system including decat, BMC and remap and was hitting 150bhp.But as Paddy says, your talking 600 just for the cams alone, is it really worth the outlay?TBs seems the obvious choice, but again, with stand alone, your talking £3k.As I said earier, if hes getting beaten by a Polo GTI, Id spend the cash on advaced driving leasons rather than engine upgrades, the Polo is over 100kg heavier than the Lupo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) well no wonder there are some reports of not good gains if they havent even been setup for the engine, the tuning could be all messed up.i would expect at least 10bhp gain perhaps 15 if it was well mapped up. it doesnt have to mean a standalone ecu can get good piggyback ecu for about £400ish inc fitting and remap to make use of anymodification to the engine running. schrick cams are £450 inc vat and delivery.depends what you call too much money. £10,000-£15,000 is too much money, which is what a full power spec NA engine costs on average in motorsport, using an factory engine as base.if he is not letting you look under the bonnet then you cant presume his is standard engine. Edited September 25, 2006 by beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrified Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) First of all what times were both cars getting on the 1/4?et and terminal speed?and both cars are (claimed) standard?Will soon tell you where the problem is.oh and what year was the polo? early 2000 models are faster. Edited September 25, 2006 by Petrified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lupogti Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 just found out he has custom induction kit and he says it is super chipped!0-60 got 7.67s1/4 mile got 15.10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 so now you know he is a liar. where do you go from there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrified Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 just found out he has custom induction kit and he says it is super chipped!0-60 got 7.67s1/4 mile got 15.10If it's doing a 15.10 1/4 then it's got more than an induction kit and chip. I'd look fora bottle in his boot!Plus the 0-60 isn't very good for that sort of 1/4 mile time. which may indicate lack of traction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G40chris Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 thats a fast 1/4 time for just a chip and a induction kitis his car stripped outthe 0-60 is slow as petrified says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 best way is to get schrick cams imo.also type his reg into the dvla database just to check it hasnt had a bigger engine put in.most the cars i know which have had engine conversions - the DVLA do not know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrified Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 I'm still banking on the gas. easy to hide and the car is going at least a second quicker than a standard polo gti. most polo gti's I've seen do closer to 17 seconds. a remap and induction kit is not going to gain you a second in a NA 125bhp polo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 just found out he has custom induction kit and he says it is super chipped!0-60 got 7.67s1/4 mile got 15.10LOLTimed at Crail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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