1 Litre Screamer Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 (edited) Arun, the front suspension will stay the same, the only change will be to the cv joints which will be machined to allow them to be used as just stub axles to hold the wheel hub and bearings on.Tigz, the bracket i have has been seriously moddified to allow me to run without the pas pump, all of the holes are drilled out to take m12 bolts. if you still want it and feel upto mod'ing it let me know. Edited November 26, 2006 by 1 Litre Screamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Would a plate either end be up to the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr P Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 looking good mate! i was beginning to think that you were enjoying driving the pink fiat. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> just curious but how is the fuel gonna get into the tank at the front when the filler neck is at the back of the car? (apart from at the petrol station for all the wise guys/gals out there!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 looking good mate! i was beginning to think that you were enjoying driving the pink fiat. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> just curious but how is the fuel gonna get into the tank at the front when the filler neck is at the back of the car? (apart from at the petrol station for all the wise guys/gals out there!)the filler at the back will be used for something else, the filler for the tnk in the front will be either through the bonnet or under the bonnet to keep it out of sight. i still have to decide on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrified Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 I cant beleive it still looks low on the front! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" /> if theres anything you think would be usefull on my lupo that you're taking off. let me know! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Green Giant Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 spotted an induction kit on the pic of the engine,il take it off your hands if you dont want it. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Nice bit of work you've done there style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />It certainly cleaned up ok style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />, spose a 1 year old car should really style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />Have fun in the fiat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 look what youve done to boris!!! cant wait to see him finished style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" /> Jen x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The subtle modder Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 (edited) border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" />have you been rallying it? that engine bay is unbelieveably filthy in the above pic style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":surprise:" border="0" alt="surprise.gif" /> oh and also how come youve only got two aftermarket ignition leads style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" /> glad to see youve started style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> assume your gonna use original front panel with original rad or a gti one if different? seen them used on the bike minis and there apparently prefect and running it with all the coolant pipes runing down the transmission tunnel, then a custom ally fuel tank behind that and thats pretty much it for the front?did you make up the engine frame for the rear? and if so any pics? oh and good luck style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbsup.gif" />wayne Edited November 26, 2006 by The subtle modder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) have you been rallying it? that engine bay is unbelieveably filthy in the above pic style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":surprise:" border="0" alt="surprise.gif" /> oh and also how come youve only got two aftermarket ignition leads style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" /> glad to see youve started style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> assume your gonna use original front panel with original rad or a gti one if different? seen them used on the bike minis and there apparently prefect and running it with all the coolant pipes runing down the transmission tunnel, then a custom ally fuel tank behind that and thats pretty much it for the front?did you make up the engine frame for the rear? and if so any pics? oh and good luck style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbsup.gif" />wayneQuestions needing answers i think!, I had actually taken the car on some very muddy roads that were more along the lines of rally stages than roads so thats how it got so dirty. The 2 aftermarket leads were fitted after i melted the originals on a trackday! I'll be using the original front panel but not the radiator, that will be from a fiat siecento, they are the same width as the VW but not as tall, that leaves more room for the fuel tank which will be a fuel cell rather than the ali tank. I havent done the rear frame yet as this has to be welded to the car and the roll cage but thats the easy part. I'll take pictures as i go along.The Fiat is alot of ermmm, lets say fun! It doesnt handle anywhere near as good as the loop but at least it has electric windows and a cd player, oh and a heater that actually heats up. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Edited November 28, 2006 by 1 Litre Screamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The subtle modder Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) The only thing that i find odd about using the sei/cinq rad (there all the same) is that the cooling on the tuned engines isnt very good so many people on the FF have upgraded to ally rads but its up to you and thinking about it how big a fuel tank do you want style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> , also is your engine frame not going to be removeable then?And yes the centos are fun or 'chuckable' as i used to say odd that you say not as good handling though what model sei is it if you dont mind me asking and would you say the lupo was better or worse than it standard?good luck with the project daz as you know i cant wait to see this one finnished and hopefully one day see it in action style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />wayne Edited December 3, 2006 by The subtle modder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) Wow great pics, nice to see you are finally getting started with this madness! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Edited December 3, 2006 by Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted December 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 The only thing that i find odd about using the sei/cinq rad (there all the same) is that the cooling on the tuned engines isnt very good so many people on the FF have upgraded to ally rads but its up to you.thinking about it how big a fuel tank do you want,also is your engine frame not going to be removeable then?what model sei is it if you dont mind me asking and would you say the lupo was better or worse than it standard?The fiat rad does struggle with a tuned engine in the normal setup of the engine right behind it, but my engine has 2 long alloy pipes running from the engine in the back through the tunnel and up to the rad in the front, so the distance will greatly improve the cooling. Also the kawasaki rad is tiny, so the cinq rad has a good start to begin with.The fuel tank will be around the 30 litre capacity, somewhere around 650x130x200mm. This should give me 135 mile range driving it steadily and around 35 miles flat out. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> The engine frame wont be removable, things flex around too much if they are removable. It will be part of the chassis.The fiat is the sx model, it handles sooo bad. The steering wheel doesnt actually turn the car, it just induces body roll style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> In standard form the lupo beats it easily on handling and comfort and most certainly looks, build quality, power, seat position, brakes, stereo quality. All in all the Lupo is way better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GINGE-GTI Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 its taken me ages to read all this but well worth it keep up the good work and keep posting up the pics of the progress nice one mate style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArosaMike Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Where did you get your cage from mate and how much? I have plans that involve one (although not on my Arosa style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />) and am currently trying to find out as much as I can so I can cost things up! I'm presuming it's bolt in right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I believe the cage Darren has is welded in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrified Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 no it's an OMP bolt in cage. they are around £280 depending on where you get them from.I've got an OMP cage from a lupo cup car but it's bigger than darrens, more of a pain to fit. but still bolt in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArosaMike Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 OK cool. Are the bolt in ones still pretty strong then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 OK cool. Are the bolt in ones still pretty strong then?They are very strong, the bolt-in cages use a sandwich plate style of mounting to the floor pan.Thanks for filling in whilst i was away peeps. My cage is the OMP bolt-in type but will be welded in and alot more steel added!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Green Giant Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I've got these two from E38. border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" />i hope chris 260 doesnt mind me using these, i just wanted to ask, how much is it lowered here? it looks so nice.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 i hope chris 260 doesnt mind me using these, i just wanted to ask, how much is it lowered here? it looks so nice.!!i think its around 80 or 100mm, very hard to tell though. all done on fk highsports. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Green Giant Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 mmm looks sweat, im in the process of deciding how low and whether i o for just springs or coilovers. also like i said previously, if when you get rid of the 1L engine you fancy passing down, for a small sum of money that air filter i noticed in the pics i would consider doing a deal!! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 A day of hard work has left the lupo as a bare shell, everything is off and the car is now ready to start having the cutter thrown into it! Its so nice working on new cars,everything unfastens so easily. border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The subtle modder Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Looking damn good there i love seeing cars fully stripped and built up from there and cant wait to see the rear install pics style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />And my dads standing by the side of me now and saids your "a mad bast ard for doing that to a newish car" although as you know i agree with you in the theory of why not style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />and you have a PM style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunalupi Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Its a bit empty....... style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />This is all very exciting! Next time we see loopy it'll be all chopped and welded with extra bits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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