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Hi guys,

Just read through a few posts on here and tbh Im alittle confused so hoping someone can help explain some stuff to me.

I have recently bought a black lupo and I want to start cleaning and treating the paintwork, however Im alittle stuck what to use, how to use it and in what order to use products.

Can anyone reccomend a set of products to help me get going and also give tips on how to use the products.

Many thanks, I appreciate your time and any info.

Ollie

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Getting and keeping the paintwork pristine on a black car is chore, but its looks really good when its done.

i'm no detailing expert, and i'm fairly new to it myself, but i would Look at the Meguires, Dodo juice, Auto glym and Poorboy's products.

i have little experience with dodo juice and poor boys but ive only heard good things about all 4 of them.

Most of the stuff is straight forward to use, but i guess a good start would be a nice car shampoo, Clay bar, Polish and then a wax.

The polish and the wax are sorta Wipe on and then after 10 mins or so buff off, but the clay bar is different. I have yet to use my kit i got for Christmas so i cant really say much about it, but i'm sure someone on here will.

Also i don't know if you do but i see so many people who don't, and that is wash out your wheel arches too. it really shows up all your hard work if there still caked in grime!

But as you probably already know there are ALOT of people on here that are very much into Detailing and their cars are Immaculate! and im sure they will go into more detail about what I've just said and maybe point out any faults :surprised:

But i hope I've helped in some way.

and good luck haha :thumbsup:

EDIT:

Read through this http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=82608

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Autosmart are good and also cheapish. The WAX is amazing, lasts for months, beads like hell and shines so rich :)

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Just bought a black sport so be interested to read the gear that the happy polishers on here like for this colour. I have always found the best thing for detialing a car is plain old EFFORT ! and would say allow plenty of time, particularly if your new to the process.

But once done, the car will look all the better for it

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If its your first time I would recommend meguiars! Get your self some shampoo such as gold class or next gen, some paint cleaner and some liquid carnauba wad. These can all be purchase from your local halfords mate and are all very easy to us, just follow the instructions on the packet. The buy yourself some autoglym super resin polish just to keep the paint shining on!

Joe

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If its your first time I would recommend meguiars! Get your self some shampoo such as gold class or next gen, some paint cleaner and some liquid carnauba wad. These can all be purchase from your local halfords mate and are all very easy to us, just follow the instructions on the packet. The buy yourself some autoglym super resin polish just to keep the paint shining on!

Joe

Hi Joe,

Cheers for the reply. I actually read your project thread last night, very impressed with how clean you keep your car and your attention to detail.

With regards to the Meguiars products, do you reccomend the 3 stage products? Would I need any further products?!?

Ollie

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there's plenty of brands you can go for but one to definitely watch out for this year is Auto Finesse.

their shampoo and spray sealant is amazing.

Lather shampoo, Tough Coat sealant.

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there's plenty of brands you can go for but one to definitely watch out for this year is Auto Finesse.

their shampoo and spray sealant is amazing.

Lather shampoo, Tough Coat sealant.

Sounds good mate, cheers for the heads up I will google those now.

tbh I'm just looking at getting a few decent products and also learning what order to use the products. I'm also interested in learning about using a clat bar, although the paint on my roof is starting to flake so that might not be the best idea...... :roflmao:

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Clay bar is really easy to use, Auto Finesse do a clay too.

Make sure you lube the panel up and also a wee tip is to cut the preferred size of you're clay and place in a jug of warm water before use to keep it nice n soft. Also, make sure after every panel or that, you turn n fold the clay in to a new piece, don't wanna be dragging all that contamination all over the paint.

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Clay bar is really easy to use, Auto Finesse do a clay too.

Make sure you lube the panel up and also a wee tip is to cut the preferred size of you're clay and place in a jug of warm water before use to keep it nice n soft. Also, make sure after every panel or that, you turn n fold the clay in to a new piece, don't wanna be dragging all that contamination all over the paint.

Cheers buddy, some great tips there.

Without sounding really dumb, but when you say 'turn and fold the clay'.....Is it a similar material to Bluetac?!?

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emm it is kinda yeah, if your paintworks heavily contaminated when you look at the face of the clay it might be covered in brown mark's so just fold it in to a clean piece and just continue doing wahat your doing.

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Try built hammer clay as you use water as your lube....it cuts down on cost at the moment and is about £10-12 I think and comes in soft or medium....I was abit optimistic first but honestly I was really impressed Leighton

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Try built hammer clay as you use water as your lube....it cuts down on cost at the moment and is about £10-12 I think and comes in soft or medium....I was abit optimistic first but honestly I was really impressed Leighton

Bilt Hamber clay can be used with water as lube but so can a lot of other clay's such as the Meguiars clay kit that can be found in Halfords.

Also, to make a clay lube just put a small amount of your preferred shampoo in a spray bottle and dilute with water this will make a nice slick clay lube.

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Hi Joe,

Cheers for the reply. I actually read your project thread last night, very impressed with how clean you keep your car and your attention to detail.

With regards to the Meguiars products, do you reccomend the 3 stage products? Would I need any further products?!?

Ollie

Yes if your just starting out they will be good for you and then you can start to experiment with other products once your commutable with these. You can the move in to products such as dodo juice and auto finesse products. But to start with the three stage system will get you seeing good results for little money.

Joe

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Cheers Joe, Just a quick one. Do I need to do anything after the 3rd step to keep the paint polished or is it all done in 3 steps?!? Also if I clay the car, do I do that before the 1st step or between two steps?!?

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Always clay the car first before trying to polish or cleanse the paint.

IMO the 3 stage process isn't needed.

pre wash, 2bm wash, clay, dry, Pre wax cleaner, wax. job's ah good'un.

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Yea as above really mate. To keep your shine topped up after washes you can use a product like Autoglym Super Resin Polish. And regards the three step thing I would buy the paint cleaner and carnauba wax and that will do you just fine :) if you want to clay bar you should: wash the car (try the 2 bucket method) dry it all up then use the clay making sure to keep the surface well lubricated. Then give it another wash then use your paint cleaner and wax. This will insure a smooth clean surface with a deep shine. And I would advise you to get some meguiars soft foam applicator pads, you can pick these up for a couple of pounds from halfords again. Here's some links including a shampoo and clay bar from meguiars.

Shampoo:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_804737_langId_-1_categoryId_165682

Or AutoGlym one:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_173267_langId_-1_categoryId_165682

Clay kit from Meguiars:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_253057_langId_-1_categoryId_255233

Paint cleaner:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_199031_langId_-1_categoryId_165527

Wax:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_200371_langId_-1_categoryId_165527

And Applicator Pads:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_201965_langId_-1_categoryId_165609

That should bring up your paint work nicely and then you can built your collection of products on that :)

Joe

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Yea as above really mate. To keep your shine topped up after washes you can use a product like Autoglym Super Resin Polish. And regards the three step thing I would buy the paint cleaner and carnauba wax and that will do you just fine :) if you want to clay bar you should: wash the car (try the 2 bucket method) dry it all up then use the clay making sure to keep the surface well lubricated. Then give it another wash then use your paint cleaner and wax. This will insure a smooth clean surface with a deep shine. And I would advise you to get some meguiars soft foam applicator pads, you can pick these up for a couple of pounds from halfords again. Here's some links including a shampoo and clay bar from meguiars.

Shampoo:

http://www.halfords....tegoryId_165682

Or AutoGlym one:

http://www.halfords....tegoryId_165682

Clay kit from Meguiars:

http://www.halfords....tegoryId_255233

Paint cleaner:

http://www.halfords....tegoryId_165527

Wax:

http://www.halfords....tegoryId_165527

And Applicator Pads:

http://www.halfords....tegoryId_165609

That should bring up your paint work nicely and then you can built your collection of products on that :)

Joe

Cheers for the links buddy, you're a star!

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No worries mate post some pictures of before and after when you do it :) will be good to see results

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Will do buddy. If I can get my car anywhere near close to how clean your's is I will be happy. How often do you clean, polish etc. your lupo?

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Try to clean its 1 once a week at lest and wax it once a month I guess. It will get washed more in the summer :)

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if you want to clay bar you should: wash the car (try the 2 bucket method) dry it all up then use the clay making sure to keep the surface well lubricated.

I wouldn't bother drying the car, always clay the car wet to help with lubrication.

After you clay do another 2 bucket wash then dry.

You should only be looking to clay the car once every 6-9 months, the rest of the time tardis & Iron X will do.

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I wouldn't bother drying the car, always clay the car wet to help with lubrication. After you clay do another 2 bucket wash then dry. You should only be looking to clay the car once every 6-9 months, the rest of the time tardis & Iron X will do.

Spot on lads. I was going to wash the car today but its been -1 for most the day in Bucks, but I did go and buy a few bits. I will post a pic, I had a few bits knocking around like the shampoo, but would be cool to see anything Ive got is a big no no, haha.

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