sgtazza Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Hi all,After a trip to Players meet at North Weild yesterday, I went home full of enthusiasm to get my finger out and finally fit my OMP Strut Brace.I have managed to sort out the passenger side brace mount... HOWEVER... I have a wee tiny issue mounting the brace mount on the drivers side on account of the Brake Resovoir beeing in the way.The reservoir look fairly firmly bolted into place and im not too keen on mucking about with brake systems.The issue is the tank/bottle sits too high up and it fouls the strut brace mount.So.. does any one have a solution? My only thought is seeking a lower profile reservoir tank/bottle? if so does anyone know of one that fits the loop?(Its a 1.4 Sport)ThanksAzza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Drilling a couple of new holes in the bulk head and lower the Resovoir would be the easiest option wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtazza Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Drilling a couple of new holes in the bulk head and lower the Resovoir would be the easiest option wouldn't it?I hear what your saying Tigz, but the tank is mounted directly on top of the master cylinder. So am not sure what can of worms I could open trying to relocate the whole shabang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 I'll take a look at mine while the dash and engine is out and see the best way of doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtazza Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 I'll take a look at mine while the dash and engine is out and see the best way of doing it.Cheers Tigz appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icegeezer Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 This can be relocated but its a serious pain in the back side..Iv done it on mine and certainly wouldnt want to do it again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtazza Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 This can be relocated but its a serious pain in the back side..Iv done it on mine and certainly wouldnt want to do it again...Hey Icegeezer,I do get that impression. Im going to have a look at milling a cut out section into the brace to clear the brake flud bottle.I'll repost if im sucessful! (or if im not!! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northwick Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 (edited) Would it not maybe be easier to buy a strut brace that goes round or over it?You would have thought that if it was sold as a Lupo strut brace it would fit a Lupo?! Its not a generic strut brace, surely? Edited September 21, 2009 by northwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpo Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Yum yum more under-steer, just what a lupo needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Yum yum more under-steer, just what a lupo needs.This. On something like a Lupo the benefits of better turn-in are outweighed by the increase in understeer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpo Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 A rear arb improves turn in and reduces under-steer. I know which one I would and did have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 I was agreeing with you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toi gulp Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 This. On something like a Lupo the benefits of better turn-in are outweighed by the increase in understeerer.....................wtf?since when does a lupo not turn in well???? if you want better turn in and a loss of grip mid corner (why-ever that makes any sense i dont know) you increase the cars toe out and vice versa for more mid corner response. A strut brace really is a waste of time on a fairly ordinary lupo!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpo Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 This. On something like a Lupo the benefits of better turn-in are outweighed by the increase in understeer er.....................wtf?since when does a lupo not turn in well???? if you want better turn in and a loss of grip mid corner (why-ever that makes any sense i dont know) you increase the cars toe out and vice versa for more mid corner response. A strut brace really is a waste of time on a fairly ordinary lupo!!!!A fast road set does make a world of difference, shame the lupo chassis isn't particularly adjustable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 er.....................wtf?since when does a lupo not turn in well???? if you want better turn in and a loss of grip mid corner (why-ever that makes any sense i dont know) you increase the cars toe out and vice versa for more mid corner response. A strut brace really is a waste of time on a fairly ordinary lupo!!!!Maybe my post wasnt particularly well worded. Front arb will give better turn in, however it will also make the already understeery car understeer more, and as such is not a worthwhile addition IMO.I never said it didnt have good initial turn-in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 OMP only make a Strut brace for Left hand drive Lupos. Hense why it fouls your brake fluid reservoir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icegeezer Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 i wouldnt want to mill out the brace,how much is it fouling by?pics would help.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtazza Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Im confued! LoL do you guys drink neat alcohol because almost none of that post made sense! made me chuckle though! Only joking! The reason for the brace anyway is my want to track day the car, I do it on the various bikes i've owned so why not the car! and the stiffer the better especially as the car is made from German JellyIt is an OMP, fixed width strut, supposedly for the Loop 1.4 Sport and Polo 6N (actually says it on the product lable) I do agree that it SHOULD fit but evidently OMP must have used an R&D car without brakes!The struts mounts have the correct shape cut outs etc to fit the suspension turrets, just that the drivers side mount is at too shallow an angle (see crude attached drawing)The only solution I can fore see it to modify the mount to fit. (or give up and sell it to some poor soul on eBay! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) It is an OMP, fixed width strut, supposedly for the Loop 1.4 Sport and Polo 6N (actually says it on the product lable) I do agree that it SHOULD fit but evidently OMP must have used an R&D car without brakes!OMP only make a Strut brace for Left hand drive Lupos. Hense why it fouls your brake fluid reservoir.If you had bothered to listen to the voice of experience, You'd have figured out that OMP (Italy) did their R&D on a Left hand drive Lupo (i.e. Italian Spec) where the brake fluid reservoir is on the opposite side of the car (allong with the pedals funnily enough). That's why It's not a 100% spot on fit for a Right hand drive Lupo... Edited September 22, 2009 by nfbr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtazza Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 If you had bothered to listen to the voice of experience, You'd have figured out that OMP (Italy) did their R&D on a Left hand drive Lupo (i.e. Italian Spec) where the brake fluid reservoir is on the opposite side of the car (allong with the pedals funnily enough). That's why It's not a 100% spot on fit for a Right hand drive Lupo...It wouldnt make any odds anyway, the pot would be in the same place, just on the other side and the mounts are also identical angles so same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icegeezer Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 you could just sell it to me to make life easier lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 It wouldnt make any odds anyway, the pot would be in the same place, just on the other side and the mounts are also identical angles so same problem.I've got an idea... How's about you buy a Left hand drive lupo and fit it on...If it fits perfectly, You have to pay for the lupoIf it chafes the Brake fluid reservoir, I'll pay for the LHD lupo and you can keep it... It does make a difference as the LHD brake fluid res is situated lower down.The amount of difference between a lhd and rhd car is absolutely un-real.It's not like they put them in the photocopier back to front and everything comes out perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtazza Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 IceGeezer - No chance I want the glory on this one! mwoh ha hanfbr - umm... ok. bit extreme. but do-able! wonder if i could get a LHD fluid pot... hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 nfbr - umm... ok. bit extreme. but do-able! wonder if i could get a LHD fluid pot... hmmm...It's nothing to do with the fluid pot. It's where its mounted.If you're that eager to get it on, Go find a car which has a brake fluid cap without a sensor in it and By-pass the sensor, that'll knock a good half inch off the height of the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtazza Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 nfbr - even the neck of the bottle without the lid fouls the mount.I think the solution here is to mill out a hole in the mount to clear the bottle. If that dont work then strut braces just arent meant to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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