VWR Lupo Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) I know there are many of you on here that have supercharged lupo's and we all know how it all works but what I'm intrested in is how much it has cost's from start to finish!I'm wanting to do the rosa but I need to know what kind of budget I will be looking at to complete the job!Thanks in advance.Luke Edited February 12, 2009 by VWR Lupo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I know there are many of you on here that have supercharged lupo's and we all know how it all works but what I'm intrested in is how much it has cost's from start to finish!I'm wanting to do the rosa but I need to know what kind of budget I will be looking at to complete the job!Thanks in advance.Luke 4-5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_Kez Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 4-5kdepends,a: are you mechanically minded?b: are you doing the job lot? (forged internals, uprated cams etc etc)c: do you know anyone in the trade who can get you some discounted parts?etc etcit all depends who you are & who you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one litre wonder ;) Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 depends,a: are you mechanically minded? - luke works for VWR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeAl Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 a: are you mechanically minded?He worked for Volkswagen Racing for a few years... Then did a small Stint at Backdraft Motorsport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 depends,a: are you mechanically minded?b: are you doing the job lot? (forged internals, uprated cams etc etc)c: do you know anyone in the trade who can get you some discounted parts?etc etcit all depends who you are & who you knowHay Kev!Yea i will be doing all the work apart from the mapping! I think a Mini Cooper S supercharger will be what im looking for. Dont think I will be uprating the internals tho I will see what its all like when I fit the decompression plate!I know many people so getting parts made wont be a problem!Is 3k a realistic budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyp Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 depends on the mapping side really.... if you can get all the other parts cheap and do all the work then i suppose its achievable but id poss have some more moolah in case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUB JIMBOB Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Will be a push to only spend 3k.Your looking at around £1600 just for an emerald k3 ecu and remap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icegeezer Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 MehTurbocharge it!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Thanks all!Will have to really start saving, yours is sounding sweet Andy, cannot wait to see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_Kez Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 He worked for Volkswagen Racing for a few years... Then did a small Stint at Backdraft Motorsport!you learn something new everyday my bad,err 3k? hmm... without internals etc i'd realistically look between 3-4k since you will know what you are doing, if you know someone who can map it up for you (for a more reasonable mates rate ) after you've done your handy work though, that will save you some pennies no matter what your budget is though, even if your the stingiest git in the world, be prepared to over-spend atleast a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 (edited) Theres not that many of us! 2 Gti's and 2 sports. With mabe another Gti in the pipeline, and 1 ongoing project.Ive been asked this question a few times.Personally id listen to the guys who have done it, because they know what real costs are involved. Others can only estimate.Its all down to the parts and what you want to acheive in the end of the day.you can get away with parts off other cars, or get custom bespoke parts that make it your own, its clearly down to what you personally want. If you went with parts off other cars and no internals or headwork, or a custom exhaust then i reckon it could be acheived with £3000, it would see you a good 170-180bhp from the 1.4 100bhp motor, as that what pauls is.Just to let you know, mine will have cost me in the region of £6500 when its finished, internals do add alot to a project, oh and a good ecu.... those two parts alone alone worth close to £3600!Luke, do you know adam who also had a stint at VWR, goes to brooklands college? I think your who adam was talking about a few weeks back!John Edited February 13, 2009 by CasperGTI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 The best advice I ever got with stuff like this was, take your budget, and double it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallika_Fan Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Theres not that many of us! 2 Gti's and 2 sports. With mabe another Gti in the pipeline, and 1 ongoing project.One more sport here, though whenever the funds are right then i'll start putting bits together onto the car, so far it's cost me £500 but then, i am on a tight budget myself, that includes the charger, raceland manifold with heat wrapping, galaxy intercooler and decompression plate. Still plenty more bits to get though. I myself am hoping for the 170ish mark.John is someone to listen to, i'd suggest looking through his thread, proper good read!Andy's project is also a very good one too. As is Pauls, being the first on here to have the charger fitted to a lupo. So that ones been running for the better part of 2 years i think, possible more. i've slept lots since then..Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Pauls, being the first on here to have the charger fitted to a lupo.Hakeem (Lupocharged) was the First to have a charger on a lupo. He had a Silver 1.4S with a 1.6 GTi Engine plumbed upto a small Rotrex charger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallika_Fan Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Ah yeah, thanks for correcting me, i was still new to the lupo game then and i forgot that i'd seen that particular car at the clubgti megameet a few years back, '05 i think. Yep, i took photos of it, i've uploaded them for comparison to the other eaton charger setups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyp Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 hakeem wasnt running an eaton as far as i remember..sure it was a rotrex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Luke, do you know adam who also had a stint at VWR, goes to brooklands college? I think your who adam was talking about a few weeks back!I do know Adam mate, did about a year with us! He has a Corrado!Is he one of your mates?Thanks for the advice all, much appreciated!If im looking at around 4k it may be cheaper to go 1.8T, really not sure on what I want to do! The car is fantastic and I just need to take it to another level! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 hakeem wasnt running an eaton as far as i remember..sure it was a rotrexHakee was running a Rotex charger for sure, thats his engine bay in the pics above! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I'd go 1.8T personally... Rotrex chargers have the same issue as G-Laders - they run off an oil feed from the engine, the oil seals blow. Excellent but temperamental IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I'd go 1.8T personally... Rotrex chargers have the same issue as G-Laders - they run off an oil feed from the engine, the oil seals blow. Excellent but temperamental IMO.Thats what I'm thinking, you can pick up a complete engine, loom, clocks and keys ect for around 1k and its easy to make fit and good power straight away!Its also quite a quick fit as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_Kez Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 but the weight?handling? etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I do know Adam mate, did about a year with us! He has a Corrado!Is he one of your mates?Yeah he is, im friends with one of his mates off the course hes doing atm. Were all involved in a track mi16 conversion in to a 205 at the moment. Help a mate out when needed.I think that engine of hakeems had 210bhp didnt it? big old piping on that system!John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Thats what I'm thinking, you can pick up a complete engine, loom, clocks and keys ect for around 1k and its easy to make fit and good power straight away!Its also quite a quick fit as well!Yeah, when you charge a 1.4 16v and you're pushing 190bhp on stock internals, you're stressing the engine - different story on forged bits but like John said... not cheap!Whilst a 1.8T, 190bhp is nothing is it but the weight?handling? etc?A supercharger, pipework, and intercooler is not light. Granted, probably not as much as a 1.8 engine, but you're still adding weight over the front of the car. If we get really geeky, you're also adding weight in front of the axle, and at a fair height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_Kez Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 A supercharger, pipework, and intercooler is not light. Granted, probably not as much as a 1.8 engine, but you're still adding weight over the front of the car. If we get really geeky, you're also adding weight in front of the axle, and at a fair height. yer that is fair enough, but i dont see a 1.8t lump & a supercharged 1.4 lump being anywhere near the same league of weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.