stevie_wonder Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 ok im after an aftermarket reprogrammable ecu and was wonderring which is best just now i only have a 1.6 gti fitted with manifold sports cat cat back and a bmc cda but looking to supercharge it down the line which ones can offer me the tuneability and how much am i looking at supplied and fitted? been looking at a dastek unichip but not sure if their any good been told a few dodgy stories about them any info would be helpful on any ecu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Which is best depends on whos going to map it.They all do the same job, Motec will be some peoples favourate, where as some will prefer to map Emerald.It'd be the last thing you should buy really Steve, get it once you know who is mapping the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_wonder Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 well i know a place called the garage does live mapping and dastek are the only places in scotland iv phoned that says they'll touch a na vw engine but a place called diamond do remaps for the lupo but not sure if they are any good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_wonder Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 dastek are saying the unichip will cope with the supercharging so might go with them been on the phone and they're quoting 395+vat including fitting does that sound reasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 They are talking out their own botty holes!A member off here believed what they told them and tried it.Put it on the rollers, and the ECU was shutting everything down on full boost as the VW ECU didn't like it.Fully stand alone Im afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_wonder Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 hmm back to square one which would you personally reccomend then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Mate, Im still undescided myself.But.If I was to Supercharge a GTI I would buy Emerald, put the car on a trailer and take it down to Storm (I think, the company who did Pauls) as they already have a base map, so it would only require fine tuning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_wonder Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 great advice there so were would be best to buy an emerald from?were is storm located? i pm'd paul the other day on regards to which belts to use etc but havent heard back from him yet trying to get most if not every angle covered so i dont run over budget or run into any trouble as i want it off the road for as little as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Ive no idea mate, never looked into them.Im learning towards a Motec if the Megasquirtturns out to be pants as Im expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish_Sport_16V Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Stevie give Marc at the garage a call, he will tell you if he can do it or not. Hes a good guy who knows his stuff! If he cant help you out he will recomend some one who can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooky Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 what kind of bhp can you get out of a gti supercharged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcorn Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 probably between 125bhp and 300bhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_wonder Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 im looking to run around 220bhp because anything over that will require an lsd i think plus i want it to be quite reliable so dont want to tune it to the max id probably even settle for little over 200 as when am i ever going to really be planting it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 300bhp.You'll never get 300bhp from an Eaton charger.200bhp is going to be your limit, I'd be supprised if you got anything more.Why do you think there are so many Eatons on ebay?Because they have to replace when anyone orders a works Cooper to allow the 210bhp it offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcorn Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 theoretically you could buy the biggest supercharger available for sale on the planet and fit it to the gti, i was thinking that could generate 300bhp.but i was thinking of those older mini cooper s works engines there could some 300bhp versions of those somewhere perhaps.i didnt know stevie has an eaton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_wonder Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 a friend of mine is upgrading to the works package on his mini so theirs a eaton going for cheap off him if i can just find evrything else and work out how much the project will be then it'll all be in and running soon hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosscarbry Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 what other supercharges can you use on a gti? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_wonder Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 rotrex and g40 are other options rotrex being my number 1 choice if i had more cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcorn Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 you could be good for 160bhp then without changing the compression? would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vworks41 Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Borring question, but does anyone know what kind of MPG you'd get running a eaton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_wonder Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 well i dont imagine it would be that bad perhaps 20-25mpg total guesstimate tho if cooper s works can achieve decent mpg id imagine so would a lupo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosscarbry Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 what would be the process of superchargering in like a shoping list order? like this?superchager unitmounting bracketspulleys and belts (what 1's)pipesdecomp platehead gasket (2?)bigger injectors (but what would you use?)ecu + mapping and wiringanything i have missed and just done that as i dont know alot about superchargers but kno a fair bit about turbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LINCOLNSHIRESLUPOGTI Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Regarding the ECU I would say Motec everytime. It is not the cheapest but it does exactly as it claims it will! The extra you pay for the product is offset by what you save when having it mapped. The quality is excellent too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Emerald or motec for me, More emerald than motec as emerald is cheaper and has been proven to work with good results, even though mapping is more expensive.Its not just a case of putting the charger on and mapping it though, As yours is a GTi space is some what limited, and its drive by wire which i think needs to be converted (havent asked at emerald myself yet) so you need to find a cable throttle that fits. Ive stick a load of stuff down in another superchargin thread and i cany be arsed to put it down here, so go and have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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