airwolf Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 av just bought a seat arosa sport and found out it has drive by wire throttle wot ever that is how would i go about changing it to throttle cable???wot would i need?? as personaly i think its crap it like driving a automatic the way u got to plant the throttle to get any were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchell Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 you would need an entire wiring harness from a none fbw car including ecu and key,.......oh and a pedal and a throttle body, also the dash would need to come out and the fbw unit removed from the top of the pedal box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Not going to be something you can change on the cheap. No matter what you do to the throttle an arosa isn't going to pin you to your chair lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwolf Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Not going to be something you can change on the cheap. No matter what you do to the throttle an arosa isn't going to pin you to your chair lolargh rite thats a shame as it the only thing letting the car down lol oh well it got good throttle wen un plant it it just got no feeling to it when u drive thanks any way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthie Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchell Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 i tried bablefish it was also confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 lol i'll show you a pic of my car after we changed it to cable throttle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I dont understand really, why is cable better than DBW?I can understand you get a little more feel but i carnt see why that is too important for an accelerator pedal. Im my experience cable ones can feel funny and not smooth to use. Although for some reason, anyone tell me why???, on the arosa/lupo it stops you left foot braking as it takes the revs away. So id rather have a cable for that reason, although i dont left foot brake, its hany when bedding in new pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 When your brake light switch is activated the engine goes into limp home mode.Thats why its better to have a cable operated throttle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwolf Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 When your brake light switch is activated the engine goes into limp home mode.Thats why its better to have a cable operated throttle thanks for the pic and u know wot ill put up with it just out of intrest how long did it take u to do the job start to finish and how much swearing involved?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 thanks for the pic and u know wot ill put up with it just out of intrest how long did it take u to do the job start to finish and how much swearing involved?? just over 3 years i think :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwolf Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 just over 3 years i think :lol: :lol:3 years bloody hell dont think ill bother il make do with the fbw and ill just stick a air filter on and cope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 3 years bloody hell dont think ill bother il make do with the fbw and ill just stick a air filter on and cope thats 3 years and still counting its in tuning top thread good read if your in to that sort of thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boraboy Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 There is an inline box of tricks you can buy that is supposed to make DBW more responsive, will put a link up if I remember who does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 There is an inline box of tricks you can buy that is supposed to make DBW more responsive, will put a link up if I remember who does it.seen these on ebay adds 40bhp too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwolf Posted November 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 seen these on ebay adds 40bhp too sounds intresting ive put a filter on and it seems a bit more responsive but not much this box of tricks any idea how were i can get such a box???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 lol noddy wasn't being serious mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwolf Posted November 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 lol noddy wasn't being serious mate.new it would b 2 good to b true lol argh well lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArosaMike Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 (edited) The fundamental problem with most modern electronic throttles is that they have a sneeze factor built in. I have no idea why manufacturers do this, other than perhaps thinking we are all a bunch of retards who can't control the movement of our right hoof properly.There is a company called Sprint Booster (http://www.sprint-booster.co.uk/) who will sell you a device to plug between your pedal and ECU that will trick the ECU into reading the throttle potentiometer differently and hence will improve throttle response. It's £200 though for what is effectively an incredibly simple piece of kit. I have no idea quite what it does, but the sum of parts can't be more than a couple of quid. If you can find a friend who's good with electronics, then perhaps you can convince them to make one for you.You're other option would be to get a programmable ECU from DTA or MoTec. These cost in the region of £600-£2000 though and you'd need to map your engine which takes a lot of work. Edited November 11, 2007 by ArosaMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwolf Posted November 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 The fundamental problem with most modern electronic throttles is that they have a sneeze factor built in. I have no idea why manufacturers do this, other than perhaps thinking we are all a bunch of retards who can't control the movement of our right hoof properly.There is a company called Sprint Booster (http://www.sprint-booster.co.uk/) who will sell you a device to plug between your pedal and ECU that will trick the ECU into reading the throttle potentiometer differently and hence will improve throttle response. It's £200 though for what is effectively an incredibly simple piece of kit. I have no idea quite what it does, but the sum of parts can't be more than a couple of quid. If you can find a friend who's good with electronics, then perhaps you can convince them to make one for you.You're other option would be to get a programmable ECU from DTA or MoTec. These cost in the region of £600-£2000 though and you'd need to map your engine which takes a lot of work.thanks for that but ill keep it as it is and spend ma cash on doin ma loop and supercharger conversion but thanks for all ur replys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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