andi Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 after last post re: mods for 1 liltre. i went on awesome gti and saw the prices for engine conversions. but they was no prices for lupos(arosas) for upgrading. so does anybody know how much a 1.4 16v or 1.6 16v would be for an arosa as if it's cheaper than £4000 it would be better than part chopping it. As i have already done some mods to my car,rear spoiler, 15" alloys, 40mm lowering springs. does anybody know where and how much it would cost for the work to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 Depends on how much an engine would go for, I suppose. The conversion itself shouldn't be a problem, and shouldn't cost that much, but I reckon you wont get much change, if at all, from £4k unless you've know someone in the trade...Also remember that the resale value won't be as good as an "original" 1.4 or 1.6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Lupo Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 to be honest mate i still wouldn't bother with this - by the time you've uprated your brakes aswell as getting someone to sort out (spaghetti) wiring loom to patch into all the arosa electrics and any other associated problems i reckon you'd be talking big bucks - plus your insurance company will shaft you - they hate cars with engine transplants - especially if it's to gain more power - good idea - but i think it'd cost you more than just p/ex yours for a sport or gti! ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty b-road Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Agreed.A trade up will be easier, and in the long run probably cheaper.Still won't stop me being interested if you go for it though....... :devil: Go the full hog and drop a 1.8T in :devil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Well if your doing engine transplants then why not go all the way style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> 1.8Turbo will cost, though - Awesome charge £10k + VAT to convert a Polo :0 :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty b-road Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 12 grand??? *lots of swearing* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi Posted February 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 I think i will change car it looks like to much trouble.1.4 16v here i come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Lupo Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 :thumbs: good lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Buy an Arosa 16v and Turbo it for 160bhp. TSR do the a conversion, if you go to GTI International this year it'll almost certainly be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putney Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 how much is that conversion to the turbo charger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Lupo Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 £2500 i think Ian. but you have to wonder whether it's done to an acceptable level (i mean do they sort compression properly etc) and how reliable would it be? and how much would your insurance company roger you for? if you go down this route you really need to look at specialist insurers i think. personally IMO i'd be more tempted by throttle bodies (which can also be unreliable) but i would have thought that you've less chance of knackering the engine than by bolting a turbo on. anyone else agree/disagree? ??? :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldirtybastard Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Hi peeps,tsr are a well known specialist company and i doubt there would be problems with conversion as long as boost levels are kept at a reasonable leveltaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putney Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 http://lupogti.moddedcars.com/gti2002/20vt...vt_loop_eng.jpgi really want this.im not sure. i really want to chat to the bloke who owns the arosa tsr. they will be at gti international so will ask then. i am not entirely convinced but have'nt seen the finished product yet.there is also a tuning company in southampton jap speed i think they are called.will see how much they could do it for. problem i heard is the ecu on the gti is sealed in glue! ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putney Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 just been reading up on turbo's. sounds a lot more work than throttle bodies. ie intercooler oil cooler. not exactly bags of room in the lupo engine bay so throttle boddies would be better. imo and less expensive.so some big fat throttle boddies with individual filters would sound and look the dogs ****. 170 bhp! 180 bhp per tonne.would kill a civic type r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Loop Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 The bad thing about fittin a turbo to a non turbo engine is that there are loads of work to do in the engine style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />better get a whole 1.8 and fit it in there (oh and give me the 1.6 style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putney Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 ha if you want a 1.6 gti engine check this out. £1750 out of the polo gti.http://www.`tsr-performance`.com1.6ltr 16v 125bhp latest Polo unit. Complete with wiring, ECU, gear linkage, etc. Ideal transplant for smaller `Aroso-Lupo`/`Ibiza-Polo`. £1750 its in the for sale section!there you go what a bargin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty b-road Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I would agree that TSR are reputable. Fair play to them! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Lupo Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> i'm sure tsr are reputable - i'm just thinking about my engine dying in a million shards of fractured metal, and then contemplating forking out for a new engine - plus if it goes pear shaped and tsr aren't on your doorstep you'll have to trailer your car to them to get it fixed...etc, etc doom gloom! don't get me wrong i too would like even more oomph, but i'm trying to think realistically (spot the old git!) style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putney Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 humm. true true. i think turbos put to much heat under the bonnet too. super chargers sound good but they are expensive. throttle bodies seem the best solution to mee cheaper look quality sound quality and no lag! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer monsta Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 The problem with the turbo is that you would haev to alter the compression ratio t suit forced induction, I guess this would mean changing the pistons and stuff like that, but the issue would be that if you are doing that then you may as well go for titanium pistons and uprated valves, springs, bearings, etc,etc,etc - becomes big money, perhaps you could change the bore and stroke to give you a 1.7 or 1.8 litre unit which would improve torque figures for you.I'd just go for the 1.8T conversion myself if you want that kind of power - AmD haev a 1.8T with oettinger conversion in their workshop, 240bhp, not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putney Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 would be ideal but isnt that like £10k fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer monsta Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I think the problem is making the electircal bits all work, perhaps if you scrap the factory imobiliser and management system then this could be cheaper. I think also the engine mounts are in a strange place on the lupo, off the inner wings - not sure but I think so, so I guess new mounts would hae to be fabricated. 1.8T engine cant be much more than £2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putney Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 i saw one for that price. there are a lot about now so many smashed up a3 tt and its vags most popular engine. they probably arnt much heavier than the lupo 1.6 either. better than the vr6 translplant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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