Tigz™ Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Have you done a standard filter vs induction kit on the same time/day?Like the look of the pipework, and whats the reason behind the TT callipers?Are they a different size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 You talk about a filter giving you 12 plus bhp but i really cant see that happening.AND i'm not having a go at you or alltech, just stating that i dont believe you can gain that amount from a filter alone. Where was it RR'd? Did you get a before and after with the standard airbox and the nw filter?I will be dead impressed if it has gained you the bhp you stated, hell i'd want 140bhp out of the GTI with just a filter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Grapo I've said it before, and its the wrong place to say it again, but those wheels are cool as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Grapo I've said it before, and its the wrong place to say it again, but those wheels are cool as hell. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTIEater16v Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Well for all of you who dont believe in an air filter giving you more power i have the dyno print out on the wall and it says 112bhp and all i have done is that nice shiny air filter!!The TT calipers are bigger with bigger pistons and i tell you it stops, ask dubweiser (dan) took him out for a spin last bluewater meet and almost put him through the windscreen!!!!funny..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69vk Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 That new induction looks much better, nice smooth curves for the airflow & it looks like it'll stop the leads falling off the coils too! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> The Air filter they've fitted looks like its made by Bomz, a few people I know have used them as they are quite inexpensive (no offence), they've also said they give a really nice roar too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Well for all of you who dont believe in an air filter giving you more power i have the dyno print out on the wall and it says 112bhp and all i have done is that nice shiny air filter!!Is that a before and after print out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Well for all of you who dont believe in an air filter giving you more power i have the dyno print out on the wall and it says 112bhp and all i have done is that nice shiny air filter!!The TT calipers are bigger with bigger pistons and i tell you it stops, ask dubweiser (dan) took him out for a spin last bluewater meet and almost put him through the windscreen!!!!funny.....Can you scan the before and after, then people will believe you! We arent doubting that it may be true, just would like some evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 i have been reading my old copy of TRC magazine and the feature is about a 1.4 sport stock hatch racer. it has a blueprinted engine. a straight through exhaust no cats, 2.5". standard ecu and airbox, no air filter. and makes 124bhp at 6000rpm and 120lbft at 4300rpmthe 2.5" fell below by some way the max db limits so was planned to enlarge to a 3" sraight though to try and release more bhp. a remap ecu with raised rev limit was also planned to get more out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTIEater16v Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Well do all you GTI boys not believe that you can tune a sport better than a GTI due to the fact its basically the same engine anyway its just the GTI is factory tuned up?! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Baering in mind that my lupo is 6 years old and has done 91000 miles i think that even 6bhp on a warm run was pretty dam good let alone 12bhp on a cold run! I had it done on a Dyno in haywards heath, company called QST(Quattro Sport Tuning), he does all the rs6 and rs4 and TT tuning.For all you non believers i will get a copy up as soon as i can!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrified Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 (edited) Well do all you GTI boys not believe that you can tune a sport better than a GTI due to the fact its basically the same engine anyway its just the GTI is factory tuned up?! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Baering in mind that my lupo is 6 years old and has done 91000 miles i think that even 6bhp on a warm run was pretty dam good let alone 12bhp on a cold run! I had it done on a Dyno in haywards heath, company called QST(Quattro Sport Tuning), he does all the rs6 and rs4 and TT tuning.For all you non believers i will get a copy up as soon as i can!!why would you run an engine cold on a rolling road?and your car being 6 years old and 91000 miles should have more power than a new engine. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" />although I do think the AFK engine do seem to be easier to get power out of than the AUB's style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> what you want is a manifold and decat. Edited August 12, 2006 by Petrified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyp Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 nobodys not believing u mate, we just like pics and graphs etc..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTIEater16v Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Sorry i forgot to put its air temperature, not that the engine is cold,so they set it down to about 12degrees C for the cold run then the warm run is just normal temp which if i remember was about 24degrees c on the day i had it done!Well if its done 91000 its well worn which can sometimes reduce horsepower.Cheers for the advice any ideas how much manifold is?! am getting it decated this week i hope!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrified Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 I think these engines just get more powerfull with the miles that go on them.I had raceland manifold from Tigz in a group buy .. I think Jez may still have one for sale. around £170, worth getting the decat and a cat pipe made up at the same time.you can decat the AFK engines with no loss of power because they only have one lambda probe on the downpipe. not on the cat.the later AUB engines have two probes same as the GTI and if you decat the ecu will throw a fit, the end result is a reduction in power output Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 (edited) Well do all you GTI boys not believe that you can tune a sport better than a GTI due to the fact its basically the same engine anyway its just the GTI is factory tuned up?! No its not.Its a different head.Different cams.Different block.Different con rods and pistons.It shares the same chassis if thats any help style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />Being easier to tune is one thing, but getting 12bhp from a air filter is ****, sorry to be rude but but your not talking to Max Power readers here chap.Edit.Sorry, just had another thought.Unless the car had a brand new VW panel filter filter fitted before the back to back test of course, If there was a 10k mile old filter in the air box to start with, then changing to a new filter may have given 12bhp! Edited August 12, 2006 by Tigz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubweiser Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Can you scan the before and after, then people will believe you! We arent doubting that it may be true, just would like some evidence.what with the 'we' you mean 'you!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTIEater16v Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 STILL WAITING TO GET IT ON THE DYNO !!!!!!! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 OK 'we' will be here waiting when you do lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 OK 'we' will be here waiting when you do lol style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTIEater16v Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) well here it is its making 116.9bhp and 132.9 Nm border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" /> Edited August 20, 2006 by GTIEater16v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Cool,did you do a run with and without the induction at the same time on the same day though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrified Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) Mine made 117.5bhp with just a BMC.so maybe if you upgrade to a bmc you will increase the power further!j/k style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />although your wheel bhp seems very low.mine at 122bhp was running around 100 at the wheels. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> Edited August 20, 2006 by Petrified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubweiser Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 j/k style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />although your wheel bhp seems very low.Hes on 16's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 30% transmission loss does seem a lot.You sure you haven't lost power with that filter, and the roller operator added it back into the fly? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Am i right in saying all fly figures are calculated, its only the ATW figure that is "correct". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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