gargoil Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 talking of zippy and relevant to the jock comment earlier, don't goodle for images of jock, you get a nasty pic of zippy being sick lollol!!NOT work safe......http://www.thesonsofscotland.co.uk/images/...Jock%20copy.jpg style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":sick:" border="0" alt="sick.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 lol, nasty but a dam sight better than quadratic polynomials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 (edited) http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SimpsonsRule.htmlAaaah, mathematica... I wrote my dissertation using mathematica to model traffic flow. Good times... style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> I'm just confused about a question I've been helping a friend with.Basically you're given an area you have to approximate using the two methods and compare and comment on the methods.First off it asks that the area be divided into 8 intervals. Then it asks that the area be approximated using the trapezoid using 8 intervals which is no problem. Then it asks for the approximation using Simpson's rule using 4 intervals. Do you use every other interval?I would take that to mean spliting the area into 4 intervals, not using every other one - otherwise you wouldn't get the full area under the curve, would you! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Edited June 22, 2006 by nickilupo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottgroovez Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Aaaah, mathematica... I wrote my dissertation using mathematica to model traffic flow. Good times... style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> I would take that to mean spliting the area into 4 intervals, not using every other one - otherwise you wouldn't get the full area under the curve, would you! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />Doh! I didn't explain that very well. I meant every other line so you have two intervals together and treat them as one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Doh! I didn't explain that very well. I meant every other line so you have two intervals together and treat them as one?As in just combining the 8 previous intervals into 4 pairs? Yes if thats what you mean. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottgroovez Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 As in just combining the 8 previous intervals into 4 pairs? Yes if thats what you mean. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />Yes, exactly. What I don't get is why does it ask for 8 intervals and 4, why can't I just use 8 intervals for the Simpson's rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Yes, exactly. What I don't get is why does it ask for 8 intervals and 4, why can't I just use 8 intervals for the Simpson's rule?Because its less to calculate as 4 intervals!! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottgroovez Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Because its less to calculate as 4 intervals!! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />Cool, simple as that. I thought there may be some other mathematical reason. I hate not understanding 100% of what it is I'm doing. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 So then, all you clever clogs who have sapped my tax input to this nation with your higher education, what exactly have your degrees in your chosen specialised subjects enabled you to do that you couldn't have learned through 'on the job' experience and training? I think that's the longest sentence I have ever written. Not bad for a HNC in Mechatronics from Blackpool college.This thread has gone waaaaaaaaaaay beyond my carefully crafted dig at inconsiderate HGV drivers using the motorway!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 So then, all you clever clogs who have sapped my tax input to this nation with your higher education, what exactly have your degrees in your chosen specialised subjects enabled you to do that you couldn't have learned through 'on the job' experience and training? I think that's the longest sentence I have ever written. Not bad for a HNC in Mechatronics from Blackpool college.This thread has gone waaaaaaaaaaay beyond my carefully crafted dig at inconsiderate HGV drivers using the motorway!!!!I'm a trainee chartered accountant studying for a professional qualification that I would not have been able to enter into without a degree. I also pay my fair share of taxes and did so while I was at University too. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Not *every* student goes to Uni to piss about for 3 years you know... style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 (edited) I did my fair share of getting pissed at college, but pissing about was off limits when the course was paid for by my employer. Although I can do CAD/CAM, use an industrial robot and program PLC controllers, it becomes somewhat useless when you move on to do payroll and accounts at a haulage company!There are very limited genuine uses for degrees; doctors, teachers, accountants, etc. But a degree in Geography doesn't necessarily make you a better salesman than the lad who started selling at 16. It's the queue jumping degrees I object to.Anyway, to quote Lardy Boy, GET BACK TO WORK! Edited June 23, 2006 by IDGM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Not *every* student goes to Uni to piss about for 3 years you know... style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />Excuse me, it was 5 years I pissed about for and sucked tax from the system at Uni!! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 I got a grant for 4 years, made a proffit at the end if you include the summer jobs loledit - i'm now a professional able to sign your passport applications and a generally upstanding member of the comunity style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffro Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Everyone has a chance to go to uni so it is up to you to take it or not, so you can't say it is cue jumping.Also, you may be paying tax for 3/4+ years uni people are not , but you earn a lot more money and generally don't live in flats that are falling apart and eat beans and pasta every night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Everyone has a chance to go to uni so it is up to you to take it or not, so you can't say it is cue jumping.Also, you may be paying tax for 3/4+ years uni people are not , but you earn a lot more money and generally don't live in flats that are falling apart and eat beans and pasta every night.I like beans and pasta, even rice. You should try a big bowl of beans with a chicken and mushroom pot noodle poured into the middle of it. A tasty, and visual, treat!By the way, does anyone remember Dairylea triangles that were tomato flavour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 I got a grant for 4 years, made a proffit at the end if you include the summer jobs loledit - i'm now a professional able to sign your passport applications and a generally upstanding member of the comunity style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />well if I ever want to spend a good few hours getting felt up in customs somewhere then I'll be sure to get your sig on one of my pics! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 There are very limited genuine uses for degrees; doctors, teachers, accountants, etc. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" /> (Not that a maths & stats degree is all that relevant - its definitely helped with some of the more mathematical/theoretical exams but you need a degree to get your foot in the door) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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