lighty Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 my gfs got a puma, looks reasonable, they messed up the wheel arches - about 30cm of clearance on the back, and really dont like the interior which with its overdose of hard silver plastic, I think looks cheap. However, i was suprised quite how much fun it is to drive, its really well balanced, sharp, and has the same power as my gti (which makes for some fun when were both driving).. no real point for this post other than I never see any posts here about pumas and think the puma is a similar proposition as the gti - small fun car, and its a sunday style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":coffee:" border="0" alt="coffee.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 The Puma was a good car, the FRP was a really good car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Haha, I was talking about this somewhere on general chat the other day!Spooky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x lucy x Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 but its still a ford style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> not bad cars.... but if i had a choice id no id choose the lupo over it definately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arun Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 dunno, FRP and lupo GTi, tough coice if they were both in front of me. probably choose the racing puma just because its limited edition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Haha, I was talking about this somewhere on general chat the other day!Spooky.Yeah, I was thinking we had this same discussion just the other week too. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />but its still a ford style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />Fords are better than VW's FACT. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_chris1981 Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 im tempted by the FRP.......oh so tempted.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) WHAT! I can't belive what i'm hearing, It's a Ford people every part on the car is below average build quality! And also Lupo GTI's are limited editions to,only 995 in the uk. Edited February 22, 2006 by Burns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_chris1981 Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 WHAT! I can't belive what i'm hearing, It's a Ford people every part on the car is below average build quality! And also Lupo GTI's are limited editions to,only 995 in the uk and i'm proud to say that we have one in every colour in my group of mates. (Black, Blue, Grey, Red, Silver) style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />its a vw matey, its built to a budget and the aftersales service and depreciation is a s bad as a ford! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Don't agree there, Depreciation is no where near as bad as ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) WHAT! I can't belive what i'm hearing, It's a Ford people every part on the car is below average build quality! And also Lupo GTI's are limited editions to,only 995 in the uk and i'm proud to say that we have one in every colour in my group of mates. (Black, Blue, Grey, Red, Silver) style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />All you are hearing is other Lupo owners admitting that other cars are at least the equal of the Lupo. Whats so shocking? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />I love my GTi, am keeping it forever, but I keep it in perspective. The Lupo is a good little car, as is the Puma, imho. The Lupo GTi is a great little car, as its the Ford Racing Puma.its a vw matey, its built to a budget and the aftersales service and depreciation is a s bad as a ford!I'm with the Big man.Don't agree there, Depreciation is no where near as bad as ford.Depreciation is worse on the Lupo GTi than the FRP. Probably. Edited February 19, 2006 by AndyW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighty Posted February 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 they could do with painting the puma a little better - my gfs X plate has got bubbling paint around the drivers door style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) Aye Aye style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":coffee:" border="0" alt="coffee.gif" /> Edited February 22, 2006 by Burns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_chris1981 Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) great, so in 2 posts youve established the fact that your a *******.well done.post something mildly constructive or please feel free not to bother. Edited February 20, 2006 by MattyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 I'm a car salesman myself and I just bought this GTI i have at the moment, its a 54 plate raven blue with leather and aircon with 11000miles for £9000 and I know for a fact I could sell it for £12500 if I wanted to. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":coffee:" border="0" alt="coffee.gif" />Sorry, but honestly, while its an amazing spec, you wouldn't get a sale unless someone was either desperate for a GTi, or rather not clued up on used values.great, so in 2 posts youve established the fact that your a ****.Now now matey, chill, no need for that. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I know for a fact I could sell it for £12500 if I wanted to style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" /> style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Thats cheered my night up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Easy on the personal abuse please.Few facts:There are more LupoGTi's than there are FRP's. IIRC there were 500 FRP's.FRP's have depriciated alot more than LupoGTi's - a 5 year old LupoGTi is going for roughly the same price as a similar age/mileage FRP in Autotrader (about £7000). FRP's cost £23,000 new style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> As much as I'm not a great Ford fan, and the standard Puma is a bit camp, the FRP does look quite good - and its certainly a better drive than a LupoGTi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Yes, the FRP was more expensive new, but I'd imagine prices for these have settled nicely, and I'm pretty sure that good examples will be fetching more than they are worth in certain circles.I'd forgotten they were 23k new though. OUCH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I was actually thinking that the LupoGTi depriciation has been quite good.Bear in mind the 5 year old models are still £7k private on Autotrader, so thats only £1k per yer. That means its only lost 45% of its value in 5 years.Not bad, when you think that most cars lose over 50% of their value in 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Well, my Lupo GTI has had a lot more problems than my dad's Focus and both have similar milage, and his is 2 years older.I doubt I'd buy another VW to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I think its give-and-take. All manufacturers from Citroen through toVW, Merc and BMW seem to be suffering from questionable reliabilty these days.Remember the "If only everything in life was as reliable as a VW?"They certainly used to be - My Mk1 Golf is still going strong, but I doubt you'll see many modern Polo's or Lupo's holding up aswell after 25 years.Compare the build quality though, and the materials, of a VW to a Ford, and VW's feel alot more solid to me. Thats not to say they dont break as easily!If you want reliabilty these days, you have to buy a Honda style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 (edited) I doubt I'd buy another VW to be honest.I'm not at that extreme just yet, they still lure me in. Every time I see anything to do with the Mk5 GTi I feel the need to part with money.All cars have the potential to break down, it doesn't matter if they are made by BMW, Audi, VW, Skoda, Fiat or Bentley or Honda, they are mechanical objects and mechanical objects break down. Which is why I always find stupid comments like 'Its a Ford, it'll break down' rather silly, and infact the very notion of buying into a brand because of the perception of reliability.Edited to say MattyB copied my homework miss. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Edited February 20, 2006 by AndyW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petes 16V Sport Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I agree with andy on the reliability of modern cars, ive always liked vw design both interior and exterior over ford's though and the neat little touches, like turning the key to close and open the windows, blue illumination etc... wish vw's drive was as sorted as fords though, the equilvilent ford always seems to be more fun, although mark 5 golf and mark II focus are pretty equal ive heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMon Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I like the FRP, as does my Puma owning mate, but he says they're prone to rusting in the extended wheel arches and aren't that much quicker than a normal Puma.Would I prefer one to a Loop GTI? Tough question.As to the fact it's a Ford, I couldn't care a carrot. VW build is not what it was. Fact. I've had a '90 Polo and an '88 T25 and both were built like tanks, but the Lupo isn't. It's got more rattles than Mothercare.But I love it anyway. Just don't get too hung up on VW "quality". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatton Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Someone mention FRP? LOLHeres my baby. Its an awesome car. i dunno where to start with it to be honest. I can talk all day and night about how good it is. Ill start with posting a nice pic border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="IPB Image" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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