twoggy Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hey guys what companies do performance camshafts for a Gti?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Kam racing has offers on Catcams ones for Club Lupo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoggy Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 awesome fella. what spec ones are the best to get?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpo Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Heard schrick cams are one of the best, the quality is supposedly brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoggy Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Heard schrick cams are one of the best, the quality is supposedly brilliant. Yeah iv heard from these too... Where can you get the sluts?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) Do you know how much work is involved in chaging the camshafts on the gti?The specific tool to align the camshafts to install them is only from VW and is priced at approx £80I think ttttada has a set fo schricks in his car, ask him mabe?Prepare your wallet!John Edited April 15, 2009 by CasperGTI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99hjhm Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 The question is, why????Unless everything else is optimised before, changing the cams is only going to make you go backwards, loosing driveability. Do you have a ported head, exhaust, induction, ECU remap??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunandez Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Im taking my loop off the road this summer to carry out engine work. ported and polished head, BMC with a good cold air feed and a full AAS exhaust including sports cat and manifold. My cousin is a master tech at VW so im assuming he can get hold of this tool for adjusting the camshafts. Just wondering wich cam would suit the GTI engine the most? Then of course it would need a remap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoggy Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) The question is, why????Unless everything else is optimised before, changing the cams is only going to make you go backwards, loosing driveability. Do you have a ported head, exhaust, induction, ECU remap???Its the same for any camshafts fella. You align and belt them up and and turn the crank to get the correct timing. Done it with plenty of my cars.Catcams offer camshafts that can work with a base mapped ecu. They focus on when the car is on higher cam area making the car still good for day to day driving. Getting the car on Saturday fella selling my Audi TT I got plans such as exhaust & manifold, 2.0 inlet, enclosed air filter, either flash base map or stand alone ecu, coilovers, big brakes, stripped with buckets.Its going to weigh as much as a bag of Walkers crisps and shock a couple of tasty motors too Edited April 15, 2009 by twoggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99hjhm Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Its the same for any camshafts fella. You align and belt them up and and turn the crank to get the correct timing. Done it with plenty of my cars.Catcams offer camshafts that can work with a base mapped ecu. They focus on when the car is on higher cam area making the car still good for day to day driving. Getting the car on Saturday fella selling my Audi TT Yer... You don't have to tell me, I build race engines for a living! Not VW, but Changing the cams in all engines is the same.Also, I would go further if fitting different cams, Unless they are ground on the same lobe centers, the timing will be wrong... You need to degree the sames by either checking the lift on overlap @TDC or checking the MOP (point of full lift in degrees past TDC). Can the sprockets be adjusted, or are vernier sprockets avaliable.Only trying to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttttada Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Fitting cams on a Lupo is no easy task. It's certainly not "the same as any other camshaft"Refer to this thread for more info.http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?sho...c=46749&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoggy Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yer... You don't have to tell me, I build race engines for a living! Not VW, but Changing the cams in all engines is the same.Also, I would go further if fitting different cams, Unless they are ground on the same lobe centers, the timing will be wrong... You need to degree the sames by either checking the lift on overlap @TDC or checking the MOP (point of full lift in degrees past TDC). Can the sprockets be adjusted, or are vernier sprockets avaliable.Only trying to help.Yeah mate agree with you there. Not sure about the pulleys, will check up and let ya know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yeah mate agree with you there. Not sure about the pulleys, will check up and let ya know Ok, There are no vernier pulleys available for the AVY head, believe me ive looked at it for mine. You could get an exhaust one, but not an inlet one. You would need to build a hybrid engine with a different head and cam set up.Fitting the camshafts in the engine is the easy bit. Its gettign the VVT sprocket back on that is the hard bit. The VVT sprocket is a sprung loaded over centre cam fed by oil pressure through the centre of the inlet cam. THIS HAS NO WOODRUFF KEY, So can go on in any position on the camshaft.You need to get the specialist tool, which holds the end for the inlet cam to the cam housing. Then you need to put the sprocket on with the torque disc and the locking pins to align the camshaft with the sprocket, and the sprocket with the cam carrier. there is a centre through bolt that has oil channels in it and that must be correctly tightened so it aligns with the oil feed from the centre of the camshaft.Heres a few pics to explain it.John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoggy Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Ok, There are no vernier pulleys available for the AVY head, believe me ive looked at it for mine. You could get an exhaust one, but not an inlet one. You would need to build a hybrid engine with a different head and cam set up.Fitting the camshafts in the engine is the easy bit. Its gettign the VVT sprocket back on that is the hard bit. The VVT sprocket is a sprung loaded over centre cam fed by oil pressure through the centre of the inlet cam. THIS HAS NO WOODRUFF KEY, So can go on in any position on the camshaft.You need to get the specialist tool, which holds the end for the inlet cam to the cam housing. Then you need to put the sprocket on with the torque disc and the locking pins to align the camshaft with the sprocket, and the sprocket with the cam carrier. there is a centre through bolt that has oil channels in it and that must be correctly tightened so it aligns with the oil feed from the centre of the camshaft.Heres a few pics to explain it.JohnDam that is a bit more work than the normal camshaft lol. Thanks for the help fella. Good to see that you guys have the same interests at heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Welcome to the ownership of the gti! you should learn these points very fast about the gti.1 - Doing anything to the engine is expensive. 2 - Most parts have to be custom made or are only specific to this engine 3 - The mechanics are far too complexed for there own good!4 - Specialist tools needed all over the shop!Mabe this is what makes them so niche?Twoggy - were you the guy that left a comment on E38 to me about charging your car? Told you it was a lot of hassle!John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoggy Posted April 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Welcome to the ownership of the gti! you should learn these points very fast about the gti.1 - Doing anything to the engine is expensive. 2 - Most parts have to be custom made or are only specific to this engine 3 - The mechanics are far too complexed for there own good!4 - Specialist tools needed all over the shop!Mabe this is what makes them so niche?Twoggy - were you the guy that left a comment on E38 to me about charging your car? Told you it was a lot of hassle!JohnLol yep. just got back from doing the deal with my Audi for the Lupo. They rev well dont they!! ha befroe i knew it i was nearly off the clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
221_matty Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but...Would you see gains from just changing the exhaust cam? Edited October 10, 2011 by 221_matty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99hjhm Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but...Would you see gains from just changing the exhaust cam?Not worth the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
221_matty Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Well thats that one crossed off the list unfortunately!Its a real shame that there is hardly anything for these engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Theres plenty around, you just gotta find where to look!From the pictures ive seen, shrick do a set of cams which work with the vvt, ill dig the pictures out at some point if i can find them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
221_matty Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Please do, however has anyone successfully mapped one correctly after on standard management? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blupogti Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Can LUPO GTI fit the Schrick 268 CAM?? I am interested it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar001 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) I have a pair of schrick cams for salethat i had in my Polo GTIin combination with FPR of 3,8bar it is a lot of difference believe me plus BMC car was doing 15,5 with reaction, time of car was 14,9 on 402m lot of turbo cars have been in mirrorif some on is interested PM methis is spec for cams Edited November 16, 2011 by Petar001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar001 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Can LUPO GTI fit the Schrick 268 CAM?? I am interested it.and to answer to this question 268 schrick cam for GTI does not exists because GTi has variable intake and ONLY avaible schrick cam is first on pictureother two are for EX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sullading Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Ok, There are no vernier pulleys available for the AVY head, believe me ive looked at it for mine. You could get an exhaust one, but not an inlet one. You would need to build a hybrid engine with a different head and cam set up.Fitting the camshafts in the engine is the easy bit. Its gettign the VVT sprocket back on that is the hard bit. The VVT sprocket is a sprung loaded over centre cam fed by oil pressure through the centre of the inlet cam. THIS HAS NO WOODRUFF KEY, So can go on in any position on the camshaft.You need to get the specialist tool, which holds the end for the inlet cam to the cam housing. Then you need to put the sprocket on with the torque disc and the locking pins to align the camshaft with the sprocket, and the sprocket with the cam carrier. there is a centre through bolt that has oil channels in it and that must be correctly tightened so it aligns with the oil feed from the centre of the camshaft.Heres a few pics to explain it.Johni was wondering where did you get these cam shaft locking tools from? i have been looking all over the web for them and i cant find a place where they sell them. i rang vw adn they wouldnt sell me a set and i really need them to re-built my engine. And if you still have them would you be intrested in selling them to me??? please do get back cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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