veedubdude Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Now my engine is almost (ever so close!) to being done, Im starting to look at management... It'll be running on the standard ECU whilst its running N/A, but when I add the boost on Im thinking of going standalone to avoid the heartache of trying to get the original ECU to work with boost. Yes it can be done but for the extra cost of various wiring bits needed maybe jumping straight into standalone is going to be better! So... Im after links to any information available on installing megasquirt or the like! I dont mind getting stuck into the wiring and the like myself, but I have no idea how everything works in conjunction with original ECU / Clocks etc. From what Ive read already the original ECU can be left in place to run things like the Speedo and auxilaries, and the standalone will have full control of the engine. Is this correct? Will the aftermarket ECU's run drive-by-wire TB's, or am I looking to go down the cable change path with pedal box etc etc.? Thanks guys, any help appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbin Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 i have a emerald in my car and that controls everything from the engine to the clocks, the only thing is i had to get the throttle body converted to cable but i prefer cable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmes Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) I have a plug'n'play ecu it runs drive by wire!I am selling it, if you want more details go to www.fartstrup.dk and see ffj105 .cheers! Edited May 6, 2008 by Marmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyKev Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 i have a emerald in my car and that controls everything from the engine to the clocks, the only thing is i had to get the throttle body converted to cable but i prefer cableI'd swear by emerald, im putting one in my loop soon, is there anything in particular i have to watch out for Paul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 But what does any of the big name ECUs do extra which can justify paying twice the price?The guy whos tuning the ECU may be used to the big name, but I dont think I could justify paying twice as much as I have to, just to make life easy on someone I am paying to do a job.Megasquirt all the way for me thank you.www.patatron.com Click on Forums, Mucho info.Tuning_Your_MegaSquirt.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbin Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I'd swear by emerald, im putting one in my loop soon, is there anything in particular i have to watch out for Paul?not really that ive come across still going really well for me and has lots of little tricks on it aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 But what does any of the big name ECUs do extra which can justify paying twice the price?The guy whos tuning the ECU may be used to the big name, but I dont think I could justify paying twice as much as I have to, just to make life easy on someone I am paying to do a job.Megasquirt all the way for me thank you.www.patatron.com Click on Forums, Mucho info.your just a tight yorkshire men thats why you cant justify it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted May 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) Thanks guys Ill have a read through the info! Just not sure what to do at the moment! For the sake of getting the car to Birmingham, I fancy seeing if the standard ECU will run boost or not with this adapter thing-y-majiggy on the MAP sensor!But then £450 is alot towards standalone! Decisions decisions Edited May 9, 2008 by veedubdude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted May 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 The other thing Im bothered about... Can the original crank sensor wheel be used? Because I dont want to be ripping the engine out again to change that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 It can on the Megasquirt, it does on the Modec, it does on the emerald, dont know regarding the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted May 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Sweet! I cant find an answer for this from looking at those sites above! Seems like an obvious thing to want to know, so Im not sure if Im being blind... But do all the original sensors work with the megasquirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I cant think of a sensor which wont.You can even use the Knock sensor on the latest Megasquirts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted May 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Wicked, thanks tigz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenSilverLupo Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Mate of mine is haing a Hydra ECU being made. Its a custom ECU so will be the best the car will ever get and blow megasquirt etc out of the water. See http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthrea...progress+thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Why will it be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Why will it be better?as it will just plug in to std wiring and not cost the earth like your megadodar and my motec are to wire in so just on that i like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 ah I see. Although it still needs mapping, the sensors still need to be calibrated so it just makes wiring easier?How much do they cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenSilverLupo Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Its better because it just plugs in as all ready said and as it is custom made for the car the power output is much better, with a megasquirt ecu being made to go on all cars there are still limitations holding the car back, because the megasquirt has to operate on all cars. With an ECU like this you dont have to deal with these limitations. Im no expert, however after speaking to my friend and a bloke at my work who used to be part of the ryton rally team they have both said never bother with kms, megasquirt emerald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 There are no limitations on the megasquirt or any other stand alone management. Its fully programable, you set it to what the car needs, its as simple as that. The megasquirt is standard fit to a ford wiring loom, bit we are only talking about connecting less than twenty wires, its not rocket science. An engines an engine. An ECU doesn't know who made it!Squirt & spark. Thats all it has to ask an engine to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenSilverLupo Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Lol hence im no expert, just going on what i have been told. My friend had a problem with the KMS, it wouldnt communicate with the stepper motor. The Hydra ECU is going to be cheaper aswel he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Lol hence im no expert, just going on what i have been told. My friend had a problem with the KMS, it wouldnt communicate with the stepper motor. The Hydra ECU is going to be cheaper aswel he said.is that the stepper motor in the throttle bodie ? how much is he paying for all this ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenSilverLupo Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 (edited) His car wouldnt idle properly, i think with mapping etc its going to be around £1200. Hydra do an ECU for Subarus, its plug and play with about a 150 bhp increase. Edited May 10, 2008 by BenSilverLupo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 His car wouldnt idle properly, i think with mapping etc its going to be around £1200. Hydra do an ECU for Subarus, its plug and play with about a 150 bhp increase.seem's not bad priced to say my motec was £1000 seems like he is changing his ecu when all i would of done is changed the throttle bodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenSilverLupo Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I dont think it was on the body it was seperate. Think his VTS engine was an older one. He did everything and couldnt get it to work, so when the man that makes the Hydra ECU's said he wanted to start producing ECU's for European cars he jumped at the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 £1200 plus mapping. Megasquirt is less than £400. Still don't see the beinift. Even if I am tight LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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