Tigz™ Posted October 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 How long has it been since VW have been about quality?I bought the 1.0 Lupo because i liked it, and it was cheap (well, the same price as a Saxo VTR with a years free insurance!).If I was looking for a cheap small car again, I wouldn't look at anything else other than the Fox.The Panda, a good car may be, but IMO its even uglier than the Fox, and the 4 wheel drive will slow things down even further.Let me just remind you about something about my 'Well built' Polo GTI.Pedal box failures.Plastic cam belt tensioner failures.Gearbox failures.All know of before 50k miles.VW quality my ass.Good to see that they have admitted its all bull crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) How long has it been since VW have been about quality?I bought the 1.0 Lupo because i liked it, and it was cheap (well, the same price as a Saxo VTR with a years free insurance!).If I was looking for a cheap small car again, I wouldn't look at anything else other than the Fox.The Panda, a good car may be, but IMO its even uglier than the Fox, and the 4 wheel drive will slow things down even further.Let me just remind you about something about my 'Well built' Polo GTI.Pedal box failures.Plastic cam belt tensioner failures.Gearbox failures.All know of before 50k miles.VW quality my ass.Good to see that they have admitted its all bull crap.Yeah i agree with some of that, when i bought my arosa i didnt really know much about them but i liked the look of it and the quality of the vw seat etc brand among other things, its well known for reliability and quality, and i know this isnt always the case, look at my 1.0 and the problems ive had. But weve got a saxo and getting in that from my arosa and its just like it feels like it could drop to bits at any moment (but it never does though)Thats my point though, looking at everything in the fox range its probably the best out there, and i like the 4x4 panda but 0-60 20 seconds style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> erm it would be faster to walk i think.All cars have glitches though, if its audi, vw, renault, citroen, bmw, every car you can think of will probably have problems.I wasnt struck on the fox when it came out, but i like it more now and its probably the best small car out there atmChris Edited October 13, 2006 by cardaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty b-road Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 They could put a Veyron engine in it, but it'd still have a super-massive black hole where the character and style should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 I would not swap my Lupo for any current VW model at all.Not even a Mk5 GTi or R32 style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty b-road Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 (edited) I'm with Darren25 grand for a Golf? No thanksI'd at least want the DSG and I don't fancy running that out of warranty. Gearbox problem Sir? That'll be 2 grand. I'd also want Xenons and probly the seat upgrade tooAnd then there's me preferring smaller lighter cars after the price issue Edited October 15, 2006 by twisty b-road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The subtle modder Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 (edited) I dont think i would buy a fox as to me as ty b-road saids it has no character on the ones ive seen and one reason why i brought and still have the arosa after looking at other cars is because it has charcter IMO to some extent like the MINI which is what i and many others it seems like in a car rather than the usual get in and drive clio, saxo etcAlso when comparing the base models of which the gti would be based on it doesnt say much, the lupo/arosa even in basic form looks so much better in all espects such as interior, shape etc than the outgoing fox although i have seen some impressive photoshops and seen the pics of the concept 'peper' thats exactly what they are NOT REAL and the chance of VW ever spending money on doing so is very slim when its marketed as a budget car which puts it in the same bracket as a 107/c1/aygo which are hardly ground breaking themselvesNot even a Mk5 GTi or R32 style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" />yes but we must remember darren does own one very special lupo gti not the run of the base car and with the mods hes carried out it would take a very special car to match it in every respect such as sound for examplewayne Edited October 16, 2006 by The subtle modder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teflon Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 iirc the fox is to share it's chassis with the forthcoming mk2 fabia, and there was wisperings of detuned 2.0tdi and tsi engined variants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 aha the magic "detuned" word. they deserve to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 aha the magic "detuned" word. they deserve to fail.we dont want your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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