lowslowlupo Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hey allJust a quick hi. I currently drive a Mini thats up for sale and should be gone very shortly and im going to get a Lupo as my new motor. Hope everyone on here is full of help and info as Ive wanted to get into these for ages.Any advice on a first Lupo to get or anything to look out for when buying etc?Cheers Joel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikemad04 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hi welcome, Take a look at this Thread says all the common problems with lupos that you could watch out for when going to buy / view a car best of luck getting a lupo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowslowlupo Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 cheers for that, all sound advice in there so Kudos to the author!!Im looking at going either for the 1.4 or 1.6. ive not had a realllly good search around thos forum yet but just as a quick guide.Whats the first few steps to take towards tuning etc? the obvious things are exhaust and filters etcWith my mini its things like cylinder heads next and cams etc...... whats the performance like of the above as standard and whats attainable?ill probably pop some more specific ones in the relevant areas once I get myself the car but just as a quickie to be thinking about oh and wheres the best places to buy bits from? who are the "vw specialists" when it comes to components?TaJoel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emz Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Welcome to CL.. If you're looking for performance then get the 1.6 GTi.. but you can still have fun with the 1.4 Sport so it's completely up to you! I'd recommend little things first like a BMC CDA Induction kit, Raceland Manifgld, custom exhaust system and I think the Oval Scorpian backboxes suit the GTi's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowslowlupo Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 cheers, im not mega fussed about pumping loads of power really. the mini ive got now has really nice power and the way it delivers it is good so something like that. thats putting out 96bhp at the fly and 76 at the wheels so something like that is fine.what range in the 1.4 are there?is the s the same as the sport? are all the 1.4s 16valve?im looking at a 1.4s 16v..... whats the rear bumpers like to change so I can put a centre exhaust on? pretty easy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naif Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I think the 1.4 comes in E, S, SE and Sport. E, S and SE are all just different trim levels, whereas the Sport is the 100bhp version.Any links to your mini? I want another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emz Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Yeah the 1.4 16v is the Sport.. 1.4s' are 8v's. You'll be able to tell the difference as all Sports come with a centre exit exhaust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1.0e Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) Hello and Welcome The Arosa came with an 8v 1.4 that developed 60bhp which was quite closely related to the 1.0,( when the MK2 Arosa came out (Facelifted) the 1.4 was uprated with the 16V engine from the Lupo.)The (UK Market) Lupo however came with a 1.4 16V which developed 75bhp avaialble a E or more upmarket S. This was later joined by the 100bhp 1.4 Sport. I have the Sport and as Emz has pointed out they are great fun. However there are a few people who buy one then find themselves wishing they had the GTI which has the 1.6 125bhp engine. I think you should take a test drive in both. It is probably worth noting that the 1.4 seems to be the "problem child" of the range with the majority of the most common fault afflicting the E, S and Sport models. Conversely the GTI seems to suffer fewer faults but will cost you more to buy in the first place.Whichever one you choose I am sure that you will be very happy.James Edited February 12, 2010 by JB1.0e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowslowlupo Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 this is my mini for sale...http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1492655.htmIll try take a test drive in both then. Ive put about 15k into that mini but just dont have as much time to work on it and maintain it as I used to.Im not adverse to getting the gti other than that they seem a fair bit more than the sports just for an extra 25bhp. are they quite different interior wise? i know they have different bumpers and arches too but are they the main obvious differences? If the 1.4 is however plagues with problems more than the GTi anyway then ill probably go down the GTi route. Would you say its generally cheaper to get one thats allready got coilovers etc or to go standard and do it all myself.are there any Vdub clubs up west yorkshire side too?Joel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1.0e Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=62657This is a guide to the various models.Inside the GTI and later model Sports are very similar. The GTI has a different instrument pack with chrome rings around the dials and an analogue clock. They have a black headliner and a different radio with rear speakers they also have an alarm. They also came with a leather steering wheel, handbrake lever and gearknob. It is outside they are more different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emz Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) Yeah my interior in my Arosa Sport is almost identical to that of a GTi's.. All of my plastics are black, the seats are similar etc. As mentioned the GTi has the additional extra's such as the black roof lining and grab handles, this is easy to swap though as I picked up a GTi rooflining and it's now happily sitting in my Arosa and looks smarter It's completely up to you what model you choose, the GTi definitely has the looks but the Sport's have the potential too, both cars are very fun to drive! .. and hey if you don't fancy a Lupo you can get the SEAT version which I did just to be abit different However the biggest engine in the Arosa is the 1.4 16v Sport. Edited February 10, 2010 by Emz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowslowlupo Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Cheers for the above. seems like I already have an idea about who the spec gurus are in here im really quite torn as to what to go for. they have the potential to be such a good car its hard to choose!im mainly looking on pistonheads and im going to have a look on here. autotrader always seems a little overpriced for some reason but im sure there might be a bargain to be had on there.I really love the way the Arosa has the front end of a "big car" yet its so little! do all the GTis have colour coded bumpers with no black part at the bottom and the rest of the ranges do have the black bit? if that makes sense??ThanksJoel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emz Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 do all the GTis have colour coded bumpers with no black part at the bottom and the rest of the ranges do have the black bit? if that makes sense??Yeah that makes sense And yeah all GTi's have colour coded bumpers, most people get the non GTi bumpers smoothed though or colour coded etc, I've had the bottom plastics colour coded on mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowslowlupo Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I take it the rear bumpers on the sport and GTi are the same? just different exhausts? Do we know of anyone up my end that could take me out in a GTi so I could see what theyre like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 The Arosa came with an 8v 1.4 that developed 60bhp which was quite closely related to the 1.0, when the MK2 Arosa came out (Facelifted) the 1.4 was uprated with the 16V engine from the Lupo.JamesThe Arosa never got the 16v engine! All Arosas Mk1 & 2 (bar the sport) are 1.4's are 8v, including both the automatic and manual ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1.0e Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Really? Thats odd. I am sure I read that somewhere. I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emz Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I take it the rear bumpers on the sport and GTi are the same? just different exhausts? Do we know of anyone up my end that could take me out in a GTi so I could see what theyre like?The GTi bumpers are slightly different as they have to fit in line with the flared arches (which the sport's and non sport's don't have).. I think also they might be slightly longer, i'm not sure, but if you were to put a GTi rear bumper on a Sport you'd need to modify it to fit.Where do you live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowslowlupo Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I Live inbetween bradford and leeds really. im about 5 mins from the M62 Motorway. One thing I wont miss in my Mini is motorway Driving....ooh thats something I was going to ask. whats lupos like on motorways? they got a decent final drive in 5th? (or 6th if its GTi?)Does changing the wheel size also alter the speedo reading like it does on my mini? Not sure about all this new fangled jiggery pokery witchcraft im just getting into it! with mine being a cabke speedo im guessing these are electronic and take the reading from the gearbox or somethuing?TaJoel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naif Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Any more pics of your mini? I'm looking for another, kind of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1.0e Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 This is the back of a Sport...This is the back of a GTI:This is the back of a standard car: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowslowlupo Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 yeah ive got loads at home. got some pics of receipts too from when i did a load of work on the car. totals about 9K.if you drop me an email at moleyinhishole2@hotmail.com ill reply to you with some more pics and a spec etc, What sort of mini you looking for Naif?Mines a 1275, closer final drive than the laters for better acceleration. central oil pickup pipe fitted to stop oil starvation in hard cornering. Did have quickshift but I took it out but theyre easy to put in. TVR Dashboard with all custom fibreglassed gauges with fibreglass doorcards to ahve speakers in them. rear seat builds all leatherette too so fits in nicely with the leather cobra buckets and harness. wheels are 12"x6" wide and are wrapped in 1 week old yoko A539's. Its got a Twin exit playmini exhaust which on the run down sounds like an anti air craft gun absolutely amazing!You looking at getting a Mini?Ill probably get another one as a project to do an engine conversion on as I wont be using the Lupo for Track days like I have with other minis previously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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