breamy Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I currently have a lupo gti and im really craving something a bit nippier. i know on paper theres nothing between the lupo and the new polo but the 1.8t has plenty of potential.Anyone have any experience driving the polo? how do they handle etccheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I test drove one, nice cars, but not exactly exciting.Bear in mind they weigh as much as a Mk4 Golf GTi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breamy Posted July 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 hmm that puts me off a bit. ive not driven one yet. i love the lupo as you can chuck it around as its so light didnt realise the polo was as heavy! mite as well buy a mk4 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I would go for an Ibiza Cupra instead. Although I drove one of them last night and it was nice, but didn't have any character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Can Renaultsports offerings not tempt you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breamy Posted July 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Can Renaultsports offerings not tempt you?they can. i love both the 197 and the megane. but insurance is through the roof for either of them! both around twice what im paying now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Can Renaultsports offerings not tempt you?Me and my mate went to look at some yesterday, a Clio 197 Cup F1 Team Renaultsport Edition Win thingy, and a Megane 225 F1. The Clio was already falling apart after 6,000 miles and inside it felt cheap and nasty - bar the really nice Recaro seatsThe Megane was quite smart but still felt a bit cheap, and the seats and dash were awful. They may drive well but the rest of them didn't impress me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Not been in 197 shape, but the interior of the 182 was awful, it may as well have been made of melted down lego, a common fault is the steering wheel melting for gods sake!They are however (again I can only comment on the 182) absolutley fantastic to drive, so I suppose its what sacrifices you are willing to make - I dare say they will offer a better and quicker driving experience than any small VAG car, but you will never have the build quality that you get with a small VAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) I have a Polo GTI and have had a Lupo GTI so I feel I can give a fair comparison.Firstly the Polo GTI is alot faster than the Lupo. Its also more refined on the motorways which was a plus for me. It grips well but I needed a set of coilovers to stop the body roll. I'm still on standard power and its enough for me at the moment, easily faster and better in gear performance than the Lupo. However the Lupo felt more special. It looks cooler than the Polo but the Polo is more grown up and a natural progression from the Lupo.Heres some recent pics:Any questions, just ask.Oh and the Polo doesnt feel heavy at all Edited July 15, 2009 by Grapo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Polo GTI118 bhp/tonne 0-100 = 26.4 secs60-100 = 17.5 secs1/4 mile = 17.16Lupo GTI 130 bhp/tonne 0-100 = 23.8 secs60-100 = 15.6secs 1/4 mile = 16.43secsIn what situation in the current Polo quicker than tha Lupo? I think you are feeling the thump of the turbo rather than anything else, making you think its quicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) Polo GTI118 bhp/tonne 0-100 = 26.4 secs60-100 = 17.5 secs1/4 mile = 17.16Lupo GTI 130 bhp/tonne 0-100 = 23.8 secs60-100 = 15.6secs 1/4 mile = 16.43secsIn what situation in the current Polo quicker than tha Lupo? I think you are feeling the thump of the turbo rather than anything else, making you think its quickerI dont know where the hell you got those figures but they look way off to me! Did you use the mk5 Polo gti figures instead?Pretty sure the curb weight is 1164kg, that would make the bhp/ton: 129bhp. The extra torque makes the in gear times significantly quicker. Edited July 16, 2009 by Grapo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001gti Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Although im not doubting the lupo, i think them figures are slightly optomistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 i reckon the figures are pretty much spot on. lupo might be slightly slower depending on fuel tank levels but look about right tbh.if the polo was bossted and remapped am sure it would wee wee all over the wee loop though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I have owned both. I have no reason to lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 i feel the only way to settle this is a race! obviously within speed limits though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Polo GTi - 148bhp - 1283kgs - 117bhp/tonneLupo GTi - 125bhp - 978kgs - 129bhp/tonneBHP/tonne does not lie. I've driven both and I will admit the Polo *feels* faster... probably because of the turbo, they are quite laggy as stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Polo GTi - 148bhp - 1283kgs - 117bhp/tonneLupo GTi - 125bhp - 978kgs - 129bhp/tonneBHP/tonne does not lie. I've driven both and I will admit the Polo *feels* faster... probably because of the turbo, they are quite laggy as stock.Theres obviously different weights being quoted on the net.I think the Polo has over 40 lb/ft of torque more than the Lupo. This will go some way to overcoming the weight problem. Anyway I'm not hear for an argument. Ive owned both, given my opinions, either take them or leave them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I'm just quoting figures off the net... I've driven both on test drives, and would take the Polo every time, mainly because even if the Lupo is faster in standard trim, you can spend 300 quid a re-map and get nearly 200bhp. The seats are lovely in the Polo too... if I had got in the Police when I applied I would've bought one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Figures from http://www.letstorquebhp.com/fwd.aspWhat feels faster, and what actually is faster are very different, especially between FI and NA engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapo Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Figures from http://www.letstorquebhp.com/fwd.aspWhat feels faster, and what actually is faster are very different, especially between FI and NA engines.That website is tosh to be quite honest. Just look at their supposed stats for the Polo GTI 1.6 v Lupo GTI. It has the Polo at 9.4 to 60 and the Lupo at 8.1. Its the same engine and the two cars have VERY similar performances. There is no way the old shape Polo GTI is over 1 second slower to 60 than a Lupo GTI.That website just calculates everything, the figures arent real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 In that case my apologies, I struggled to find any figures from Parkers etc, saw the Lupo figures were correct and assumed they would be too.The point about FI cars feeling faster due to a rush of torque still stands though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001gti Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I owned the previous shape polo gti and to 60mph it wouldnt be that far behind the lupo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001gti Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 aye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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