GTI_LU_PO Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Sorry Guys another 'camber related' question. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> My GTI is showing excessive wear on the outside edges of the front tyres - (edge of the tread approaching the side wall).I was planning to take the loop for laser alignment this weekend.Questions! - Is laser alignment the right thing to do? - What should the garage do/check/adjust? - What sort of ball park figure should I be looking at for this? I had imagined £60-80? - Should the garage have all the original manufacturers specifications? - (If not).... what should these be for the GTI? Many Thanks. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69vk Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Unless you've got positive camber (which a very much doubt) its more likely a tracking problem. The garage doing it will have it on the computer as to what the settings should be, & if they do it properly (which most dont) they will even put a ballast in the drivers seat to replicate having the driver in the car when they adjust. Not sure about prices as its gonna vary wherever you go, but I paid £28 for laser tracking last time I had it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTI_LU_PO Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 I did have the tracking 'sorted' a short while ago, if this is the case then I am starting to doubt they did it propoerly as little has changed?Is it possible to get a visual idea of what camber it's running? (i.e. looking to see how it sits - like old bm's?) If its postive how would the front wheels be sitting when on full-lock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69vk Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) If you've got positive camber, looking at the car head on & wheels straight - The top of the wheel would be out further than bottom, most cars (if not all built after about 1920) have negative camber which creates more wear on the inside of the tyre.EDIT: this picture should explain it better.... border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" alt="" /> Edited July 13, 2006 by Max69vk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTI_LU_PO Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) Thanks v.much Max69vk - very helpful.Will go and have a look when I get the chance - have a feeling that it is running positive.........had a look and it would appear (to the un-trained) that it is Negative. Will take it to the garage and see what they think - have a look at the tracking again (!) and see what they say on camber etc...Thanks. Edited July 13, 2006 by GTI_LU_PO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArosaPD Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 How the hell have you managed to get your car to run with positive camber?? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> I'd bet your either toeing in/out that's why you're scrubbing those tyres off. Have you fitted new suspension, etc recently? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyp Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 im getting my done next wed at the stealers...85 quid.. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTI_LU_PO Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 All sorted on Saturday at Supertyres in Maldon, Essex - Friendly guys & quick service. £35 the front tow adjustment and £15 for each camber adjustment. (only o/s needed doing) = £50.Very impressive portfollio of cars they work on... Enzo, F40, racing scooby, etc... a lovely M5 turned up whilst I was waiting. I was sent there on a recommendation as they supposed to be the best in the county. The Loop is driving and handling a lot better now - A thumbs-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyp Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 the stealers couldnt do mine as app they couldnt get it on the ramps cause it was too low...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LINCOLNSHIRESLUPOGTI Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Sorry to go off topic.AndypMy car is very low but Heron at Newark can cope with it ok. Did you go there or use the new dealer in Lincoln? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyp Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 @ daz: thats where i went mate, refuse to use lincoln cause they r crap..cant understand how they couldnt get it on the ramp if they were meant to have tried blocks under wheels as well...imo i dont think they tried very hard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXXXtreme arosa Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 GET IT DONE AT A PROTYRE! 40 quid tacking camber and caster checked and adjusted. fronts and rears are all checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 caster checked and adjusted. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyp Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 well, got the camber measured today... 3 degrees neg! lolbooked in next week now at an independant specialist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LINCOLNSHIRESLUPOGTI Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 AndypSame as me mate, refused to use Dixon VW before they closed down (although not tried the new dealer). I went there the other week to nosey around and they are too crap to have a carpark big enough for more than about 6 cars so I left. If they cant even provide parking spaces they wont be getting my business!Heron are fine with my car and its -95 to 100mm. I guess your smaller wheels make your actual ground clearance less thn mine though so maybe that is why you have a problem. They are usually very accomodating for me although of late they have been less friendly than they used to be so maybe things are going downhill.3 deg negative is funny, very race car styleee. I run 2 deg negative on front to allow crisp turn in and also to allow my tyres to tuck inside the wings so they dont rub. Let me know what you thought of the independant please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyp Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 (edited) mick raw is who i using, think i saw u turning out of allenby this morning??? just got to be careful of the slope that leads into his place...very steep!! tbh, i wouldnt use lincoln one mate...still same people etcherons ive had no problems with...just that it was three o clock in the afternoon so they probably couldnt be arsed, i didnt get charged so im not grumbling about that Edited July 21, 2006 by andyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXXXtreme arosa Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> How?just saying if the caster needed adjusted or measured they could do it dont think this applies to our cars though as there was nothing on the printout about the caster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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