Rallyedude Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) Right , so just bought a 2001 Lupo 1.8t yesterday. Now , here in Canada this is a big deal. Lupos are not legal here unless older than 15yrs. So an importer I know kind of surprised me this week with a phone call telling me his container was coming in last tuesday. So, how could I say no... I remember seeing Venom's green one at Inter's years ago. A Lupo has been on my list ever since. I've been reading about motor swap ideas since I got the call earlier this week. I'd love a VR 24V but, any install I've seen involves a lot of chopping of body. So, 1.8T it is. I like the idea of Mk3 style welded on to stock subframe , Then custom front mount . Anyone have a better idea? Or is there a mount install kit available? I've built 4 Mk1 VR's before with 3 different mounting systems, I've built 2 syncro corrado's , TDi swaps, B3/before passat syncro swaps, 1.8T swaps, 2.7T audi 90, etc. So the 1.8T Lupo is certainly do-able. But evidently the UK has 15 yrs of knowledge on me in this area . So, ideas ? thanks, Rune. Edited April 8, 2017 by Rallyedude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 a. Read a few threads. generally the leg mounts are the most used mounting method. polo 9n3 inlet allows more manipulation with mounting. if it is an rhd lupo, use a tdi or gti pedalbox for the hydro clutch. gti or tdi selector for cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobieus_uk Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 google search come up with a nice thread on this forum about a 1.8T look like a good read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 I did see that red one . I see he used a lower brace . Sort of a variant on mk4 pendulum style mount . Of that style , the most solid mount seems to be when the use mk4 lower dogbone. But you end up with less road clearance. I'm leaning towards mk3 mounts . Keeps your chassis legs clear . I only found this one in Sweden . http://www.mestmotor.se/bilsnack/forum/showthread.php?359111-vr6nitrous-Henkes-Lupo-1-8t-projekt&s=fd8035b26ca15337878e46b4543fe3c9 Although it looks like a left side bracket from an Audi A4 longitudinal set up used as ft mount . I'd probably just rock a mk3 4cyl 02A bracket . Build up a from subframe to meet up to it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derv Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 The AEB is the longitudinal equivalent to the AGU that some like for the big ports, so it the engine mount makes sense in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted June 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Yes I'm aware of port size differences . Honestly with a k03s 180hp motor (with programming @215hp) I'll be happy enough . From 49 to 215hp . I'm happy with that ! Trying to get it through safety check right now . Quebec doesn't like coilovers . My German contact should be bringing a stock suspension in a week or so . My mk6 Rwagon project is next on my list . The Lupo swap will be this winter ! I blame the want of this project on venom's vomit green Lupo 1.8t from back in the day . Saw it at inters knew I had to have one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derv Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'm with you. 1000bhp+ has been done on the small port heads anyway. The AGU/AEB isn't all that. Plus DBW has its tuning benefits. I've got a spare AJQ(180/240) dyno'd at 231PS/332Nm and minimal lag on a K03 and ME7. I'm tempted to put it in a Lupo and be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 so which US rallye are you then? if you're the chop/rebuild guy then you are somewhat legendary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted June 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'm in Canada . I think you're talking about the red one that got rebuilt on a USA spec Montana green shell . That one is amazing . I just used to fund my uk trips bringing euro spec parts back to Canada in the 90's. I bought mine from Jim at awesome years ago . Then got married, side tracked . But back on track these days ! This is my most recent build . Smyth kit I call "divorce therapy".Take a mk4 4dr, cut half off , install kit . Now I got a BDF Ute ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 I spent some time with the stupid ute that was created over here. my only gripe with that car was the lack of cabin foot space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted June 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 The silver one based on a wagon? Loved the look of that car . Mine has reduced leg room . I'm 6'2", it's a bit tight . Reality it's kind of useless for my lifestyle . If it had a locking tonneau cover itd be perfect. But I'm selling it so won't be my problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 the silver one which became blue. (wrapped) there's no way to do it nicely whilst still getting a decent bed from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted July 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Got my 2.5 stainless exhaust built ! Getting ready for 1.8T! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 most do that last. makes sense this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Yes but I want the worlds lowest torque 1.0L!!!! plus stock replacement 1.0L exhausts aren't exactly available over here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted July 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 I did some reading on control arm bushings . Thought they were same as mk4 golf . Took it apart . Apparently not ! Any recommendations on upgrades ? Is there a factory solid version? I'd rather not go poly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 if the Tt ones don't fit then there isn't going to be a solid option. are you sure they're a different size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted July 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Really ? Maybe my micrometer eye is off . I pulled control arm off but didn't push out bushing . It sure seemed smaller . I'll call vw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 i bought a couple for a lupo from Ecp, ended up using them in a golf mk4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted July 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 What do people typically use to convert to 5 lug and rear disc brakes ? The ft looks like some mk3 VR parts could be made to work with not huge hassle . My 1.0L has drums . Seems like most people switch rear beams to a gti model to get mounting tabs for rear caliper . I'm thinking my best bet might be to use mk3 disc rear stub axles ( which incorporate caliper mounting tabs). Any other suggestions? That don't involve shipping a gti beam across the Atlantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 the mounts on the gti are a separate plate. asides from that, you can just use the mk3 set up, bolts straight on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 why not just save some time/money and import a proper gti and just keep it 100% stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 maybe not money.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyedude Posted July 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Actually I'm getting someone to look at a gti next week . And I'd run it stock . But gti's keep value so playing around with this 1.0L doesn't bother me . Also having more easily available parts on it makes future maintenance easier . Instead of waiting two months to get parts , two hours . Thanks for the help ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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