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Not sure mate. Mine will be a custom made race cage so quite different from a show cage. Sorry i cant help. Nothing has happened as yet. Im still quietly looking around for a car with with to start the project but im in no rush Its just something to tinker with in the workshop in the evenings and weekends to pass the time and have some fun. Ooo, Can i have it Track cars are always a good project

After reading all 20 pages all i can say is Awesome. Simply Awesome. I hope my car is half as nice as this when finished. Kind Regards Garry

Nice read was this. Do you still have it mate? Is she alive Kind Regards Garry

My friend Dave was going to build the cage for me. He is the owner of the MK2 VR6 and Corrado Turbo i posted about in my opening post. His day job is at Saxon Motorsport building race cars, so is very qualified. Have a look at the cage in the Civic for an example of his work. Were located in Ashford, Kent so a little way from Bristol but im happy to get him to offer a quote if you want. Just send me a PM with the details of what you want and i can run it by him. I think he is fairly free at the moment so may even be able to get it done before xmas for you

Okay, im with you. Do you know if they can phisically be attached tho, or is it a total no no? I would be more interested in saving weight, than having it look perfect. Do you know how big a gap we are talking and has anyone done it before with pics etc.. I tried searching but could not find any decent guides, but i could be looking for the wrong thing Kind Regards Garry

Alloy panels are always going to be a good thing I shall have to check and see what parts i would need to swap over to make it all look OE tho Sounds good mate. How far have you got with it so far? So if i can find a GTi rear ended, i would need the bumper, wings, bonnet and grill to make it all fit nice? Thanks again. Garry

Yeap, im over there also Hi

Thanks Phil, great info. So the various fronts are: - Basic Lupo - Sport Are they both the same fronts, but the Sport having a centre exit? - GTi - 3L I prefer the Gti front, but have read its a bit of a mission to fit onto a non-Gti, so will probably look at the Reiger front: That should look purpousefull enough i think Any other major points between the models i should think about? Kind Regards Garry

Perfect answers. Thanks. Does the 3L have different bumpers that can be fitted to normal Lupos? I see alot of people mention them? So depending on the cost of finding a rear beam, i may be just as well to spend the extra and get a 1.4 sport to start with? But they are around £2k so quite a cost. I shall have a look. Okay, nice and simple then Thanks for the answers. Garry

I would be interested to see this info for my track project also if you could. Kind Regards Garry

I have done alot of reading. Almost all the progress threads off here it seems and have a couple of fairly obvious questions im sure you can all help with. What is a Lupo 3L? Does the GTi have a quicker rack than normal Lupos? - If so, can they be swapped? What models came with rear disc brakes as standard? - If a smaller model has drums, what rear beams/discs can be fitted? What are Cambridge rear lights? Im sure this is simple enough for you wonderfully helpfull people to answer. Once i have a more solid idea of what i need as a staring model i can go shopping I was pointed to this little beast by a member. Only £700.00 (after a couple of e-mails) but think i do prefer the look of the Lupo. But, i do think the Morrettes add to the "Track" theme i will be working towards. Fit side lights into the bumper, HIDs into two of the lamps and cold air feed the other two. Kind Regards Garry

Just had an e-mail saying its still not sold and they will accept £750.00. I think i will keep looking

Awesome project. I just read this from start to end and am very impressed

lol. Sorry Depends what you want from the car? The Octavia is a great all rounder. The Lupo/Arosa will be just a toy. Why you selling?

Mail sent offering £500.00 Awaits reply

Thanks for the reply. The plan would be to use the MK2 16v clocks in the car and fabricate my own lightweight dash (flocked to keep it pretty) so no, the original instruments would not be an issue. So it looks like either a dirt cheap (needs work) Lupo, or bargain Arosa. What sort of money should i be looking at for one? I would like a runner just for the practical aspect of moving it about Garry

When i get round to building it i shall let you know how i get on. It has been advised i run 14" wheels so these may give additional clearance. If the arches do require any modifications i shall document the required work. Kind Regards Garry

I know what you mean about enough hours in the day, so much for the ressesion aye Yes please keep me posted. No, this will be a private project so all out of my own pocket But i know Rich from KW so im sure i can get a good deal, he lives about 5 doors down from me Speak soon. Kind Regards Garry

Cheers Jack

S Drives are a good all round tyre for the money. Much better than T1Rs. We run them on my mates 400bhp Corrado Turbo and they put up well Garry

So are the main differences purly asthetics? (Check Spelling) As i am looking to remove all the interior, including dash, and swap the engine, would it make much odds what car i started with? Im not to fussed about the looks as it will be a track/weekend toy. I think they both look exceptionally ugly so im not fussed. I have had a look around Autotrader and the cheapest of each i can find is about £1k. So should i buy the Lupo or Arosa? or just what comes up first? Kind Regards Garry

Sam I have just spent this morning reading this thread from start to finish. Im very impressed. I like what you have done with the car to keep it looking clean and simple. Very nice. Like the look of the cage, think the one i build will be of a similar design I wont ask you any silly questions about the engine, cost or insurance as i read the whole thread, lol. Kind Regards Garry

Hi Jon, yeah, has been a little while. I cant seem to escape you guys these days, lol. I was just speaking to Kevin (i think) over on Sax-P a few days ago You bits sound nice, i shall give you a call when im doing the build. Hope buisness is good for you all. Kind Regards Garry

Thank you. I had a spare set of 312's avaliable to me so assumed they would be the best option for track use. If the car is that light then im happy to use smaller if it will provide the best package. Can you point me to similar projects in case i have missed them I do like a nice build thread read. We have fitted the 312 behind 15s before but i cant recall the wheel ofset but the caliper casting did require some minor trimming. Again, i had them avaliable so thought i would use them Do you know to what extent i would need to modify the arches? Or would 14s be a wiser choice? Looks like 14s and 256s are the way forward. This is the reason i joined. Why thank you. I like it as its a little different to the miriad of MK4 Golfs and is also 100% practical. Trips to Le Man are so much nicer in the VRS The MK2 VR6 is up for sale if you want (Around £2.5k). Full bare shell spray and build was only started/completed less than 6 months ago. Its epicly quick, handles awesome and sounds like thunder. What more can a man want I ruled out the 2.0 engine as i had always found the 1.8 a nicer engine to drive, it seems more willing to rev and as im not going for massive power, it should serve nicely. I dont want too much torque (i know the 2.0 will produce more) as i want the drive Revvy and fun. (If that makes sense) High praise indeed. The only downside is it wont be started for a while yet. I am just gathering information at the moment. I will probably start looking for the doner car after xmas. As most of the car will be binned i really will be looking for the cheapest car avaliable regardless of engine or milage etc. As long as the shell is good the rest i can sort So if you hear of any painfully cheap Lupos coming up, then point me to them. Thanks again. Garry

Good Evening. Firstly a quick hello to everyone. I have been a lurker on the site for many a month and today thought i would sign up and start posting. As my topic says, I am planning on building a small car for track use, but also keeping it road legal to have fun with on weekends. I have a practical car for everyday use so it need not worry about being practical in that sense. As its also my first post I think i had better say a little about myself. My name is Garry Curley, Im 27 and live in Ashford in Kent. I have my own house and live my my girlfriend whom i have been with for the past 10 years. (No marriage or kids yet, still too young for that). I used to work at Piper Cams and Exhausts for the past 9.5 years and was in charge of product design and sales. I now work for the large online retailer MotorSportWorld as the sales manager. I love cars and motorsport, and enjoy modifying and racing them. My current car is a MK1 Octavia VRS. Its nicely modified and im happy with it at the moment. It has 18" BBS RC Wheels (Genuine BBS ones, not the MK4 Golf Anni ones), H&R Coilovers, Brembo Discs, DS2500 Pads, JDT CAI, Custom Code Stage 3 software, 28PSI Peak (holds 18psi till 5600), Spec Stage 3 Clutch, Fidanza Billet flywheel, Full Samco kit, Piper Turbo Back system, Eibach RARB, R32 FARB, R32 Steering Rack and a few other bits. I also have the S3 braces, Forge FMIC and a full Powerflex bush kit sitting in the garage to be fitted when i get time. My thoughts behind this future project stem from the fact i have always wanted a MK1 Golf this project, but sadly they are just too expensive for me to justify as models with a decent body (my no1 criteria) are commanding allot of cash and although i agree worth it, it puts them out of my reach. So i started thinking of other cars i could do something fun with, but on a sensible "budget". I thought of a Corsa, Punto, 106, Fiesta etc but none of these grabed my interest. So i looked back at the VAG family and thought "Why not a Lupo?". Im a little annoyed that i did not think of it before but hear i am now. I already have most of my plan laid out in my head but thought i should run my ideas by you members who may point me in the right direction, or give me constructive criticism of my plan and point out other things I have not yet considered. So in Summary, my basic plan is thus: Lupo Car as Base (Probably 1.0 model as cheap to buy) Black Shell but with coloured Bonnet, Mirrors, Roof and Tailgate. (Bright colour so as to stand out on track.) Completly stripped interior 2 Bucket seats and harnesses Full custom cage (Will make myself) Home made dash (Flocked) 1.8 16v Engine (From MK2 Golf Gti - Tuned lightly and running on ITBs or 45 Carbs) Coilovers 312mm Brakes (From Audi TT/Golf) 15" Ronal Turbos (These would be a treat as i just simply love them, if the budget wont go, then a set of Steelys will be fine) R888 tyres That's about the gist of it. I know it looks like an ambitious project but I think that most of it should be simple to do and the main thing being that I can do almost all of it myself (with help from some talented friends). Most parts will come from doner cars I have access to and any new parts I am lucky enough to get at cost price because of my job, so I am hoping it will be a comparatively cheap and cost effective project. Now, i am fully aware that despite my previous sentence, this will run over budget and I will have allot more problems that I can think of now but I am planning on being fully realistic about the whole project. Other cars my friends and i have built are: MK2 Golf VR6 Civic EP3 Track Car VW Corrado G60 Turbo (Super charger removed, Turbo added) I think that covers most about me and my plans. So, back to the point on this post. Does anyone see any obvious problems that i may encounter and ways around it? I have read alot of the build threads on this forum and am very impressed with the unique ideas and quality of the work carried out. Speak soon. Garry