Vendetta Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Came out of work last night, unlock my door with the key (as you do to get in). As the key turned both windows came down all the way and then the key got stuck in the lock and will not come out at all!!! My loop did unlock the doors but i was stuck, i phoned tha AA and got them out, they couldnt get the key out either and so i was towed home so i could get my spare key to get the windows back up and see if i could then get the key out.I got the windows back up but as soon as i tried locking the car again overnight, the fecking windows came down again and it wont lock. So last night i had to block my car in the drive with our other car cus my car was left with both windows down and the main key in the lock in the door!!!I got one of those full car covers to put over my car so that a, no water/rain cud get in and b, so that no one could see that the key was stuck in the door....has this EVER happened to anyone before or does anyone know if it happening to anyone else?? The AA man certainly saif it was the strangest thing he had ever seen, and to finish it off nicely, the car ran out of warranty about a week ago ffs :@:@:@:@Any advice greatly appreciated - Ven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqs_Loopy Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 (edited) MMM does sound strange... OK heres my thoughts on this... You may or may not be aware that there is the ability to open both windows at the same time on open and close them both on closing the car.Thisis a standard feature on most electric windowed VAG Cars. It would appear that the locking mechanism has jammed in the open position (you don't say style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> ) The only way to resolve this would be to disconect the solonoid that locks the doors and opens/closes the window and look at the lock. It may be that when you disconnect power from the solonoid it would release the key or make it easier to remove. It sound like to me there is a faulty switch on the back of the lock which activates the solonoid which in turn locks/unlocks the door and then after 3 or 4 seconds it triggers the windows to open/close... Either way its the switch or lock jamming open..If the car is still under VW Warranty it would be a warranty thing.If not then a hammer and screw driver or tallented engineer....Good luck and let us knowOh yeah and firstly try this Disconnect the battery and see if you can get the key out or lock the car? Edited September 4, 2005 by Marqs_Loopy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendetta Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Okydoaky i shall be giving that a try this afternoon after the GF has stopped moaning at me cus i cant take her to blackpool today... style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Rallye Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 (edited) My girlfriend had this happen to her in Morrisons carpark in her Mk4 Polo, which uses the same lock/barrel setup as the lupo. (although there not the same as the lupo's blade (see below) is slightly shorter, I know cause I had a spare Lupo handle and tried repairing it with that.)I ended up having to strip the doorcard etc and remove the handle, there is a blade type affair which comes off the end of the barrel and into the locking mechanism this has fallen apart style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":angry2:" border="0" alt="angry.gif" /> jamming the key over to one side not letting it be removed.If your completely stuck (which is sounds like you are) I managed to strip the lock remove the key and reasemble the handle/door so that at least the car could be used all be it only locked/unlocked from the passenger side.All done in the middle of Morrisons I might add!! lucky i'm a mobile service engineer style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Went to a scrappie the next day and stripped a lock off a Polo and "liberated" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> the bits I needed (the blade bit which had snapped).You problem sounds the same it is simple to recitfy though.HTH Edited September 4, 2005 by 89Rallye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendetta Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Well i have given up, i am certainly no mechanic.. i will have to have the morning off work and take it to a grage and get them to do it style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> thanks for all the suggestions tho folks style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliveski Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 I had exactly the same thing happen with my T reg 1.4 Lupo about 2 years ago.The key just would not come out!I had to take it to VW who said part of the lock cylinder had broken . . . . they charged me £32.11 for a new lock cylinder, £67 for labour, PLUS VAT giving a grand total or £116.45Pretty damn expensive but I what could I do? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":angry2:" border="0" alt="angry.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The subtle modder Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 (edited) Bloomin ell cliveski they proper ripped you off mate why didnt you just tell them to remove key and you would open and close by the remoteEdit: Just remembered that the lupos are key locking only unless you fit an alarm etc style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> Edited September 4, 2005 by The subtle modder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Rallye Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Pretty damn expensive but I what could I do? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":angry2:" border="0" alt="angry.gif" /><{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do it yourself for about a fiver max style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> Sorry guess you dont want to hear that style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyclone Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I know its all confusing for some of you but VW are probably one of the easiest cars to strip down...dont be afraid of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliveski Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Yeah, I'm older and a little wiser now style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> At the time I had no option but to take it to VW as I didn't have any know-how on what to do (I asked on this forum but no one could help) and with the ignition key stuck in the door it needed fixing like yesterday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyclone Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Appreciated mate...still if it ever happens again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliveski Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 The funny thing is it shouldn't happen on my present Lupo as it's a GTI and I can use the remote style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> also I'm de-locking both front doors soon too (I have the parts I just need to paint them) style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMon Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Perhaps another post to be stickied in the Maintenance section? Have we got a list of common Lupo faults and how to fix 'em knocking about?Will post a quick suggestion in the Maintenance section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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