ok cheers for that, very informative. well i wont be buying one for a few months at least, need to raise the funds for one stull, and im only part way there. im pretty sure the sub itself will fit, just doubting the box will that i have them in at the moment... im sure i saw someone with the same type of sub as i have got, but had fibreglassed an enclosure... ill try and find it again cheers