D7 YME Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Quick question a friend of mine thinks he got flashed last night. Can you flashed if you set of a Gatso but the line are on the other side of the road and you didn't actually drive over them. There was two lanes of traffic on both sides of the road. The line for the speed camera where going in the opposite direction to which the car was going and the camera flashed twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Nope your friend is fine nothing to worry about the camera's calibration is out! i have one near me i set it off all the time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D7 YME Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Nope your friend is fine nothing to worry about the camera's calibration is out! i have one near me i set it off all the time!!cool thanks finally someone knows the answer. Thats what I thought but I kinda needed to have it clarifiedCheers Ty.Question the firts flash is for your spped isnt and the second one is where they try to take your plate isnt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 No, the two flashes are taken a second apart, and then they can use this with the markings on the road to confirm the speed you were travelling at (i.e. how many markings you passed between the two photos).Either can be used for getting the numberplate, although the first one will usually be used unless it's unreadable for any reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D7 YME Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 No, the two flashes are taken a second apart, and then they can use this with the markings on the road to confirm the speed you were travelling at (i.e. how many markings you passed between the two photos).Either can be used for getting the numberplate, although the first one will usually be used unless it's unreadable for any reason.the marking where next to himthere was two lanes of traffic no central reservationhe facing the cameraand there where no line on his side of the road so what has the camrea taken a picture of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Well if he got flashed on the wrong side of the road, as said, it's not valid anyway. Who knows what it took a picture of, depends on how wide angle the lens is and where it's pointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D7 YME Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Well if he got flashed on the wrong side of the road, as said, it's not valid anyway. Who knows what it took a picture of, depends on how wide angle the lens is and where it's pointing.true hopefully blank air can they try and send a NIP out anyways if they got the plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Nothing to stop them sending out an NIP, but it would be laughed out of court due to lack of evidence. It'd be a waste of their time and money to send it out, so I wouldn't expect anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 They can't do anything anyway as they are not supposed to picture you coming towards them. Not to legal firing off a flash in someones face whils't driving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 The only cameras that can take a pic of you from the front are the Truvelo's, as they are infra-red and they don't flash and they are designed to take a pic of your face, it kinda stops people with company cars etc saying they don't know who was driving and getting off with the fine. If your face is visible from the photo on a gatso they can't fine you (so i've heard, as this happened to my friends dad). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 The only cameras that can take a pic of you from the front are the Truvelo's, as they are infra-red and they don't flash.Yes they do. I don't know why so many people still believe this when there's so many about now and they have a quite noticable flash. It's not as bright as a Gatso flash, but you'd either have to be blind or be out in a very bright day to not notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 (edited) It is the flash on the truvelo that is infared, you should not be able to see the flash.It is the pressure strips on the road which takes 4 readings which allows the speed to be recorded! If the readings show you are speeding they will activate the "invisible" infared flash providing the infarded sensitive film with the correct exposure and record a photo of your ugly mug:) Edited June 16, 2006 by gargoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D7 YME Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 It is the flash on the truvelo that is infared, you should not be able to see the flash.It is the pressure strips on the road which takes 4 readings which allows the speed to be recorded! If the readings show you are speeding they will activate the "invisible" infared flash providing the infarded sensitive film with the correct exposure and record a photo of your ugly mug:)So to make a long story short al my mate did was srt it off and there is nothing that can be done about it due to the fact that gatso's have to take u from the rear. now on a round which alllows two way traffic to flow would they set the camera up to just flash two lanes rather than three. \if this is the case then they will only have a blsnk picture can any1 comfim this for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 It is the flash on the truvelo that is infared, you should not be able to see the flash.It is the pressure strips on the road which takes 4 readings which allows the speed to be recorded! If the readings show you are speeding they will activate the "invisible" infared flash providing the infarded sensitive film with the correct exposure and record a photo of your ugly mug:)No, it's not. The film in the camera is sensitive to infra-red light, the flash is a standard incandescent flash with a purple filter in front of it. The filter cuts out a lot of the light in the non-infrared spectrum, but there is still more than enough to be visible to the naked eye - it's still at least as bright as an average compact camera flash, and has a distinct purple tinge to it.It's almost impossible to make a bulb that outputs a significant amount of light in the infrared spectrum but doesn't output any in the visible spectrum - look at heat lamps for an obvious example of this. The only realistic way to do it is to use LEDs rather than a bulb, and they don't do that.If you don't believe me, try speeding through one. I've seen at least 20 instances of them going off, you will not miss the flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D7 YME Posted June 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 So to make a long story short al my mate did was srt it off and there is nothing that can be done about it due to the fact that gatso's have to take u from the rear. now on a round which alllows two way traffic to flow would they set the camera up to just flash two lanes rather than three. if this is the case then they will only have a blank picture can any1 comfim this for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Oh get over it. It depends entirely on where it's positioned, who did the installation, how wide the lens is. Rest assured that you (oh, sorry, your 'friend') aren't going to get any points. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D7 YME Posted June 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Oh get over it. It depends entirely on where it's positioned, who did the installation, how wide the lens is. Rest assured that you (oh, sorry, your 'friend') aren't going to get any points. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 The film in the camera is sensitive to infra-red light style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> Erm, thats what I said!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> Erm, thats what I said!!!Hmm.Yes.But you also said:It is the flash on the truvelo that is infraredWhich is what I was commenting on.Bikerz? Is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) Hmm well I'll take yer word for it!!I've never actlually seen one of these anyway as luckily I have to drive quite a wee distance to find a speed camera style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />edit...............http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/gatso09.htmhttp://www.snoopers.co.uk/truvelo_speed_camera.asphttp://www.radarexpress.com/support/speed-trap-guide.phphttp://www.road-angel.co.uk/speed_camera_types.htm#gatsohttp://www.speedcamerasuk.com/truvelo.htmAll these websites say different though!! Who to believe?Who to believe? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> Is the flash you see from these cameras not actually the "intelligent flash" system which can be installed in these cameras and can collect traffic data and "encourage" people but is not actually a "live" camera. Seems a lot of confusion around the net about these things! Edited June 17, 2006 by gargoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Well, you could just look at the manufacturer's website style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />ClickyMagenta flash filter for front photography.Oh, and here's the full datasheet: clicky.When in doubt, go to the source. This issue is going to become more and more prevalent as people come to rely on the Internet for fact-finding - an incorrect statement published on a popular website will become accepted as the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Snoopy you know your stuff! I always thought they didn't flash, but thanks for clearing that up, i have never seen one go off and i'd rather not be anywhere near one when it does go off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D7 YME Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 (edited) My mate never recieved a NIP cheers for the advice Snoop Edited July 6, 2006 by D7 YME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerz Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Which is what I was commenting on.Bikerz? Is that you? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> No belive it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMon Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 When in doubt, go to the source. This issue is going to become more and more prevalent as people come to rely on the Internet for fact-finding - an incorrect statement published on a popular website will become accepted as the truth.Wikipedia anyone? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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