m8ngn Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Just a quick one,I have just bought a lupo GTI, Again! and it will be getting stripped out early next year so on the topic, i believe the air con pump is making a slight squealing noise if i remove the air con compressor and all ancillaries air con wise can i use a non air con Gti drive belt which in effect will remove the air con system?Cheers in advance Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patroddy Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 i really wouldn't remove it as it would devalue the car so much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Why don't you just give me £20 and a tall latte from Starbucks in Team Valley and I'll give you an air con pump ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patroddy Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Rich will you fit me Aircon to my non AC for £20 please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m8ngn Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Haha cheers guys, the car is getting stripped in the new year anyway for track use so any weight saving is beneficial, who need air con in England anyway. So i think its possible to run a non air con belt on it. Edited November 10, 2014 by m8ngn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Haha cheers guys, the car is getting stripped in the new year anyway for track use so any weight saving is beneficial, who need air con in England anyway. So i think its possible to run a non air con belt on it. hottest summer in England for a while?I certainly could have done with it. Still, if you decide throw the bits out let me know, quite fancy retrofitting. Dash out job but worth it I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yeah, just start ripping it all out, if you can be arsed fit a non ac airbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 hottest summer in England for a while?I certainly could have done with it. Still, if you decide throw the bits out let me know, quite fancy retrofitting. Dash out job but worth it I reckon.Worth it in winter for getting rid of condensation alone. Is the belt tight? Loose belts can squeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m8ngn Posted November 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Worth it in winter for getting rid of condensation alone. Is the belt tight?Its a bearing noise i think belt seems fine.Yeah, just start ripping it all out, if you can be arsed fit a non ac airbox.Hmm confused at this part what will the benefit be Rich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 lack of condenser within the airbox will save weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Kind of a side topic, but is the 'basic' air con system the same as is fitted to the polo? I'd like fit it to my sdi... It'll make it even slower! I wonder if AC was an option on the sdi, as you need the compressor bracket. That's probably the hardest thing on a retrofit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'll answer the question if you take the Rallye out your 'driving' thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'll answer the question if you take the Rallye out your 'driving' thing. It'll be Lupo SDI soon (now driving) and the Mk2 will be in the shed for work... And maybe a light respray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I want a Rallye but I refuse to buy one at the current prices as I want to rip it apart and make it mine upon re-assembly.In an ideal world I'd love to find a rapey one which actually warrants what I want to do.Can I tempt you with a 24V golf mk2 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I want a Rallye but I refuse to buy one at the current prices as I want to rip it apart and make it mine upon re-assembly.In an ideal world I'd love to find a rapey one which actually warrants what I want to do.Can I tempt you with a 24V golf mk2 ?If you buy a nice GTi Lupo now, store it, in 15 years it'll be worth more than you paid for it. I'm sure they'll be considered classics...24V VR6 Urgh (sorry!). I don't know a single one that didn't have design problems. Even the latest 3.6FSI has problems with the inlet valves clogging up after about 80k. Not a few. Every single engine produced. The problem is that the engineers forgot that breather fumes are sticky. Add some heat and the 'particles' stick to the back of the inlet valves. No fuel wash to clean them... Every FSI with direct injection. Huge oversight. And the FSI has fuel pump problems with that little cam driven pump which bungs the pressure up to 120PSI. The older 2.8 and 3.2 had hot spots (they needed an electric pump to keep circulating the coolant after switch off, otherwise the head would warp). And corrosion on the 2.9 head... But when new, they were very nice.Oh, and the FSI concept is a big con.What do you have planned for a Rallye? An old quattro if you can find one? Or how about a MK2 Golf countryman or 4WD version. But you'd want to change the viscous coupling to something a bit beefier for fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'd keep a Rallye standard.I have a Lupo GTI at the minute, can I tempt you with that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'd keep a Rallye standard.I have a Lupo GTI at the minute, can I tempt you with that ?Just have a new SDI arrival I'm working on for the next few months.... But thanks for the offer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarosa Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Kind of a side topic, but is the 'basic' air con system the same as is fitted to the polo? I'd like fit it to my sdi... It'll make it even slower! I wonder if AC was an option on the sdi, as you need the compressor bracket. That's probably the hardest thing on a retrofit.Unfortunately AC was never an option on the SDI model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Unfortunately AC was never an option on the SDI model. I thought that might be the case... I looked in Etka, and it didn't show up in the right combination there either. I suppose it's because there simply isn't enough space for a compressor. But I suppose it could go right above everything, just where the fuel hoses are, but how the belt would need to be routed I have no idea.I'll have to get one of my spare compressors out and have a play to see what size would fit. It could go where the alternator is, but then I'd have to move the alternator. mmmm tricky. There's lots of places a mounting cradle could be bolted on though, which makes it 'doable'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'd start looking at the polo sdi for parts instead . .. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I thought that might be the case... I looked in Etka, and it didn't show up in the right combination there either. I suppose it's because there simply isn't enough space for a compressor. But I suppose it could go right above everything, just where the fuel hoses are, but how the belt would need to be routed I have no idea.I'll have to get one of my spare compressors out and have a play to see what size would fit. It could go where the alternator is, but then I'd have to move the alternator. mmmm tricky. There's lots of places a mounting cradle could be bolted on though, which makes it 'doable'.Negative. It was only UK models that didn't have AC. European SDIs have it, unless it is a retrofit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m8ngn Posted November 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Right got the air con compressor off etc now the new non air con belt wont fit! Do i need to change the whole mount where the alternator bolts onto? Wish i never bothered lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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