T3LLIOTT Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hi Guys,I'm going to purchase a trolley jack this weekend so working on my Lupo is more accessible and wondered if someone could help me out with some advice. I would like to know where the best place is to jack my Lupo up with a trolley jack is, so either both front wheels or both rear wheels are off the ground. I know there are jacking points next/near to all 4 wheels, but I was wondering if there is a safe place to jack the whole front/rear of the car up using a trolley jack, as it would make life a little easier when changing wheels etc.Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I'm not sure it's possible to jack the entire frontend up. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Wheel changes don't really take long I'm sure you could do it without needing both off the floor lol You could always grab a set of axle stands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3LLIOTT Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks for the reply Skezza! I know it doesn't tak long but I wanted to know if it could be done! I did my coilovers on ramps and it was just so much easier to access things!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 The rear wheels can both be lifted using the rear tow eye. I have never found a safe way to get both the fronts off with just a jack though. Just get some axle stands and jack up one side at a time, lowering it onto the axle stands. If you put them at the front, you can jack up at the rear tow eye and then have all 4 wheels off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Or if it's just for wheel changes, you can do a side at a time by putting the jack at the front and lifting till the rear comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3LLIOTT Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks for the advice and info Jon so next question, is there a point in buying a trolley jack or shall I stick to the one I already have that came with the Loop?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt123roll Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks for the advice and info Jon so next question, is there a point in buying a trolley jack or shall I stick to the one I already have that came with the Loop?!Yeah you should buy a good quality trolley jack and a set of stands. Scissor jacks (the one that comes in your car) should only be used in emergencies and you should never really get under your car when it's on one. Heard many a story about them collapsing and a few horror stories about people being crushed under cars because a scissor jack failed, aplty named 'widowmakers' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3LLIOTT Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hi Matt, thanks for the reply and the advice not go under the car with the current scissor jack. I think the key here is to jack each side once at a time (with a trolley jack) and just take my time with whatever it is i'm doing. Many thanks for all the replies and help you have given I know understand there is no 'easy' option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Definitely use a trolley jack. The standard jack can slip very easily and even if you're not under the car you will still end up with a big dent in your sill. Edited February 6, 2014 by jon_273 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3LLIOTT Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Cheers Jon, looking forward to getting my jack, putting my (soon to be) freshly painted wheels on and then having a play with the coilovers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yeah you should buy a good quality trolley jack and a set of stands. Scissor jacks (the one that comes in your car) should only be used in emergencies and you should never really get under your car when it's on one. Heard many a story about them collapsing and a few horror stories about people being crushed under cars because a scissor jack failed, aplty named 'widowmakers'Lupo scissor jacks aRE AMAZING. if your car is lowered they can get it up enough to get the trolley jack in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danoid Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 You shouldn't even have the weight of the car on a trolley for long, should always be with axel stands and just the trolley for backup.That's doing it safely though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yup, the VW jack is called the 'widowmaker' for a good reason. Trolley Jack is safer with axle stands. Though if I'm not working on wheels I prefer ramps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt123roll Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Lupo scissor jacks aRE AMAZING. if your car is lowered they can get it up enough to get the trolley jack in. Or you can muscle it and just pick up by the arch/door enough to get a trolley jack under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Or you can muscle it and just pick up by the arch/door enough to get a trolley jack under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3LLIOTT Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danoid Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Personally I've found the ol' wood support works best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Holy **** is that real or is that Photoshopped/Staged? Jesus tap-dancing christ that's insane. To be fair, I regularly see a guy working under his car with trolley jacks on both sides and I wince every time I do. So so dangerous. The current trolley jack we own is about 40 years old, but has been re-sealed once due to it pissing oil out and dropping the car from mid air. I'm tempted to buy a new one. ALDI are about to sell one for £25 which is a very good price imo. Edited February 7, 2014 by Skezza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3LLIOTT Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Holy **** is that real or is that Photoshopped/Staged? Jesus tap-dancing christ that's insane. To be fair, I regularly see a guy working under his car with trolley jacks on both sides and I wince every time I do. So so dangerous. The current trolley jack we own is about 40 years old, but has been re-sealed once due to it pissing oil out and dropping the car from mid air. I'm tempted to buy a new one. ALDI are about to sell one for £25 which is a very good price imo.That's the one I'm getting haha! Going to check it out when they have it in stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danoid Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I hope the photo is photoshopped, but looks legit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt123roll Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Holy **** is that real or is that Photoshopped/Staged? Jesus tap-dancing christ that's insane. To be fair, I regularly see a guy working under his car with trolley jacks on both sides and I wince every time I do. So so dangerous. The current trolley jack we own is about 40 years old, but has been re-sealed once due to it pissing oil out and dropping the car from mid air. I'm tempted to buy a new one. ALDI are about to sell one for £25 which is a very good price imo.Spent a little bit extra and get something like thishttp://www.sgs-engineering.com/tjl2-2-tonne-low-profile-trolley-jack?___store=sgs_en&___store=sgs_en&gclid=CO7Kor6WurwCFYrjwgodZ3gAXwTrolley jacks can easily be had for £25 so Aldi aren't really offering a bargain and I'd personally rather purchase a reputable brand such as SGS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan94 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 B&Q have some good offers on at the. moment: Torq 5 piece lifting combo kit. Full kit with stands, jack and what not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffD Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I usually manage to get my trolley jacks (2) on the bolts mounting the subframe. it's solid enough and then use axle stands where the subframe mounts the bottom arms. one trolley jack can lift the rear axle and put two axle stands under the rear axle mounts, simples! car off ground work done, reverse procedure. obviously if you've only got one trolley jack it takes a little longer. by the way the vw scissor jacks are shite, I took ours out of the boot and threw it in the garage, somewhere. I also have a fire brigade bag jack which is very useful, goes into places where you'd never get a trolley jack and on any surface , ideal when wheels come off, but that's another story. geoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3LLIOTT Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 B&Q have some good offers on at the. moment: Torq 5 piece lifting combo kit. Full kit with stands, jack and what notSpent a little bit extra and get something like thishttp://www.sgs-engineering.com/tjl2-2-tonne-low-profile-trolley-jack?___store=sgs_en&___store=sgs_en&gclid=CO7Kor6WurwCFYrjwgodZ3gAXwTrolley jacks can easily be had for £25 so Aldi aren't really offering a bargain and I'd personally rather purchase a reputable brand such as SGSForgot to say thanks for the links, will be checking them out today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopEd Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 When you're buying it check the saddle height, get the lowest possible. Mine's not a very low car but my jack only just fits under the sills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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