bluebottle Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Does anyone on here have any experience of fitting a VW MCD satnav ( the one with the small monochrome screen) into a Seat Arosa ? If anyone has done it does it use the standard existing wiring, or would it need an adaptor of some type ? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Isn't it canbus? You'll have the 59 minute bug I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) Isn't it canbus? You'll have the 59 minute bug I believe.The satnav canbus ? I've heard about LED lights giving problems on some modern cars, I didn't know it could apply to radios/satnavs. What is the 59 minute bug ? I have seen a picture of a Lupo with the MCD satnav fitted, on this site - I was wondering if the wiring in the Arosa is similar enough to allow fitting the same unit ? Edited May 5, 2013 by bluebottle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Arosa and Lupo wiring is the same, so fitting should be identical. The MCD is mk4 Golf era, I believe, so no canbus issues. I had an MFD fitted and all it required was a GPS aerial and a plug and play lead. I'm sure there's a how to on here somewhere from years ago by bossjohnc. He had an MCD then upgraded to an MFD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) The satnav canbus ? I've heard about LED lights giving problems on some modern cars, I didn't know it could apply to radios/satnavs. What is the 59 minute bug ? I have seen a picture of a Lupo with the MCD satnav fitted, on this site - I was wondering if the wiring in the Arosa is similar enough to allow fitting the same unit ?59 minute bug is what newer VW radios get in older cars like the Lupo. They switch off after the 59th minute because they expect a canbus signal (?). I know that someone on on MKIV's forum fitted one using a special adapter he custom made or something. I don't remember how he got it working, but it seemed like an extraordinarily large amount of work for not much gain. If I remember the end result wasn't that nice either as the new ones are curved so he had to trim some of the dash. Yikes, don't sign me up.Edit: If the routing is anything like the MFD then you'll be disappointed, however I just had a look and the actual unit itself looks really nice! Edited May 5, 2013 by Skezza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Arosa and Lupo wiring is the same, so fitting should be identical.The MCD is mk4 Golf era, I believe, so no canbus issues.I had an MFD fitted and all it required was a GPS aerial and a plug and play lead.I'm sure there's a how to on here somewhere from years ago by bossjohnc. He had an MCD then upgraded to an MFD.Thanks for the information, that is helpful. If you could describe/ give a link to the plug and play lead required that would be great - I've done a google search and there seem to be a range of VW plug and play leads available (varying in price) and I would like to be sure I was getting the right one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma11b Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 The mcd doesnt need a plug adaptér if you have removed the stock beta unit it should plug streight in using the wiring iso plugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobG Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 The only cable/adapter you might need is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Multimedia-adapter-Audi-VW-MFD-Navi-Plus-add-video-signal-to-navi-/140963450554?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item20d2138ebaWhich allows you to view aux screen input while the car's moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Thanks for all the tips, I think I have sourced the right connector now, fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 All up and running (thanks to a small adaptor lead from Poland), certainly sounds much better than the original Seat radio/cassette It's surprising how good the standard speakers are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin360 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Any chance of a pic?Im thinking of doing the same thingCheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I must admit. Having looked at one on YouTube it looks miles better than an MFD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Any chance of a pic?Im thinking of doing the same thingCheersI'll try to get one loaded, may take a day or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 MCD satnav in place, not pushed all the way into the dash yet, still adjusting the wiring loom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 If you're struggling to get it in, remove the 'arosa' tray from underneath so you can get your hand behind to tuck away cables and things, then refit. I had to do it when fitting my MFD. It's a bit tight behind there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Looks surprisingly good actually. Still don't like the idea of a DVD based sat nav though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 If you're struggling to get it in, remove the 'arosa' tray from underneath so you can get your hand behind to tuck away cables and things, then refit. I had to do it when fitting my MFD. It's a bit tight behind there!It's not that, I'm still in the process of connecting a CD changer unit to it and haven't threaded the lead for that through yet, saves me having to "unlock"it from the dash again with the four spring clips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Finished, and everything works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I have to say well done. I'm not going to rush out and buy one don't get me wrong, but I'm impressed with the look of that in the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I have to say well done. I'm not going to rush out and buy one don't get me wrong, but I'm impressed with the look of that in the dash. Thanks, I'm pleased with it, and it has improved the sound quality (and the radio reception surprisingly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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