*Jonnyg* Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Hey up. So with these floods around the UK, My lupo SDI picked alot of water up, the engine stalled. Wouldn't start back up, So a mate towed it, stuck it in 2nd, let the clutch go and nothing, So tried 3rd gear, and again nothing. So pulled in, tried started again with the key and it did more then just the ' click ', so towed it again and it started. Very rough, but it started.So, Left it to tick over, and it smoked like hell. Drove it 80 miles, and used 20 quid of diesel, which is shocking! Am not sure if its bent a few valves, or ruined a injector. I stripped the airbox off, and they wasn't any water or wetness. So must be something different. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1cr08472 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 white smoke? means its not burning all the fuel in the cylinders could be a ****ed air compressor. Vagcom should be able to tell you what's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jonnyg* Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Yeah stinks of fuel. They is no engine light on, so would it tell me if they was a problem?Really down on power Edited December 28, 2012 by *Jonnyg* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 You've either damaged an Injector by hydro locking the **** out of the engine, or knocked the timing out by trying to turn over a hydro locked engine at speed. When you flood an engine, the worst thing you can do is try and turn it over, water doesn't compress like air does. It will cause some damage somewhere. You should remove the glow plugs before doing anything like that to allow the water to escape without damaging something. Check your timing, and then check all your injectors, also check to see if your actually running on all cylinders, you could have killed a glow plug and one cylinder isn't actually working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I'm confused how he managed to get water into his engine without it passing through the intake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 I did this once on my 306 diesel. I went through a ford, forgetting the air filter is at the bottom of the car, I never found much water in the intake system either. But the engine was full.I took the glow plugs out, put it in gear and pushed it down a hill. It was like a scene from fantasia!Glow plugs back in and started first time. I loved that car, it was indestructible!Jihn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jonnyg* Posted December 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Car still starts fine tho, It does run on all 4, just misfires. Will check the plugs tomorrow tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Are they mechanical deisel pumps on them? Or have a fuel distribution manifold that's timed off an engine belt? Almost sounds like the timing is out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jonnyg* Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 No rattling, no knocks or bangs. Just really down on power, smoking, and really bad on fuel. Its got a slight misfire. Not sure if it is injector or timing tho. Don't really fancy taking it to a garage for them to guess, and charge me over the moon for it. I've done 100 miles since it cut out now tho, and no change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Exactly how deep did you go? It's ok asking us lot what's up for free like but we don't know the full story and can't see the car or what it's doing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jonnyg* Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Err, it went up the wheels but It splashed over the bonnet , engine cut out pretty much straight away. The engine sounds normal to be fair, they is slight misfire but not a massive one and lots of white smoke ... I have done a video of engine too but am on my phone atm so can't post it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 If the vid was taken on your phone you can upload it to photobucket and then upload it on here, would probably make it easier for us to see what's occurring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jonnyg* Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/4gamerz/media/IMG_1543_zpsa8038c64.mp4.htmlEngine on idleSorry I meant idle to fast idle ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Can't see the vid dude, is that the image code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatelError89 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Could be a bent conrod sounds like a bag of nails lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jonnyg* Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/4gamerz/media/IMG_1542_zps4e4b2284.mp4.htmlThe inlet is off on first video btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jonnyg* Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Can't see the vid dude, is that the image code?Direct link mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Check the timing out, doesn't sound bad for an sdi but it could've slipped a tooth or two from the stall, and chucking in fuel at the wrong time, that's where I'd look for starters anyway before worrying about getting the head off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 whats your oil level like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jonnyg* Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 The oil was just above min, but I had topped it up. I am thinking it is cam belt, with it chunking in fuel at wrong time and being really under powered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jonnyg* Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Think i've found the problem, bent condrod. Its not got enough compression to burn the fuel and is really down on power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatelError89 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 be head off then then inspect to see if its damaged the bore enough for another engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Was going to say bent con rod.Something has to give when you try to compress water sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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